Pro Stock John 10-06-2003, 12:16 PM Congrats to Chris S. aka Znines for running a 9.006@159mph with his teal 96 LT1 Z/28 yesterday.
I hope that Chris posts up the other 2-3 slips since the MPH was in the 150's for all of them...
He was pretty happy last nite we should have went and got some buffalo wings and some strippers!!!!!!!
FireAm94 10-06-2003, 12:20 PM That's hauling ballz!
Joe
lt1camaroman93 10-06-2003, 12:26 PM congrats on the times. How did the shoot out go for you guys on sat? I wish i would have been able to make it out there.
TravProcharged94Z 10-06-2003, 12:41 PM Awesome Numbers for the LT1 :bow:
I seen this car in the GMHTP mag and the detail in this car is awesome! Would love to see it in person. Great job :)
Travis
mongse_1 10-06-2003, 02:29 PM Congrats Chris. Really lookin' forward to the Outlaw class @ Thunder Shootout this year now.
FireAm94 10-06-2003, 02:31 PM I don't guess you have a video that run eh? hehe
Joe
Pro Stock John 10-06-2003, 02:32 PM I think there is video of that pass, might be a couple of days before it's up.
got_hp? 10-06-2003, 06:23 PM his setup?
Brick 10-06-2003, 07:38 PM Originally posted by got_hp?
his setup?
-383ci
-LT4 block
-Ported GTP LT4 heads/intake
-Custom hyd. roller cam
-10:1 CR
-Vortech YS-trim (Cogged) supercharger
-Custom 3-core Spearco intercooler
-TH-400 trans
-FAST SEFI engine management system
-96lb injectors
-Weldon 2035
I don't remember the suspension (I know it is a stock style and he does run the car on a 10.5" tire), but you get the idea.........
I still think he would have been better off with a single 88mm turbo as well as a solid roller cam, but it is very impressive to say the least how fast he is going with an LTx based motor!
89ProchargedROC 10-06-2003, 07:48 PM chris built the car with the blower before turbos were really becoming popular
i believe its on a 29" x 10.5 Hoosier slick
got_hp? 10-06-2003, 08:03 PM Originally posted by Brick
-I still think he would have been better off with a single 88mm turbo as well as a solid roller cam, but it is very impressive to say the least how fast he is going with an LTx based motor!
im guessing this is a very light car!
Brick 10-06-2003, 08:26 PM Originally posted by got_hp?
im guessing this is a very light car!
I'm not sure how much it weighs but if I had to guess by looking at it I'd say anywhere from 3000-3300lbs w/ driver....... That is not exactly very light in my book, but it is on the lighter side for a 4th gen F-body...... That is why I'm still very impressed by George Baxter's full weight convertible Camaro (it weighed 3900lbs if my memory serves me correct) :eek: that ran low 9's @155mph with a big old Vortech (X-trim??) supercharged LTx motor..... One thing I like on this car that Chris did is he got rid of that POS optispark and runs a distributor..... Most of the serious racers with a LTx based engine know that is the smartest possible thing you can do.......
got_hp? 10-06-2003, 09:55 PM Originally posted by Brick
One thing I like on this car that Chris did is he got rid of that POS optispark and runs a distributor..... Most of the serious racers with a LTx based engine know that is the smartest possible thing you can do.......
what about heads..........are they still lt1 style.........or are they regular SBC heads converted for reverse flow?
Brick 10-06-2003, 10:07 PM Originally posted by got_hp?
what about heads..........are they still lt1 style.........or are they regular SBC heads converted for reverse flow?
The heads are GTP ported LT4s......
got_hp? 10-06-2003, 10:16 PM Originally posted by Brick
The heads are GTP ported LT4s......
oops, i skipped over that part!
Brick 10-06-2003, 10:37 PM Originally posted by got_hp?
oops, i skipped over that part!
Yeah the heads being LTx style on Sikora's car is what really makes him running 9.0 @159mph impressive to me considering Baxter had those awesome Canfield reverse cooled heads (I'm sure they flowed better than the best set of ported LTx style heads)..... I heard that Canfield no longer casts reverse cooled heads so the only aftermarket type heads for LTx based motors are the AFRs (which I've heard aren't that great) and Edelbrock was supposed to be making aftermarket reverse cooled heads for LTx motors......
josherSS 10-06-2003, 10:57 PM is there a vid anywhere?
got_hp? 10-06-2003, 11:31 PM Originally posted by Brick
Yeah the heads being LTx style on Sikora's car is what really makes him running 9.0 @159mph impressive to me considering Baxter had those awesome Canfield reverse cooled heads (I'm sure they flowed better than the best set of ported LTx style heads)..... I heard that Canfield no longer casts reverse cooled heads so the only aftermarket type heads for LTx based motors are the AFRs (which I've heard aren't that great) and Edelbrock was supposed to be making aftermarket reverse cooled heads for LTx motors......
well you can convert regular heads to work on the lt1, so you can get some insane heads.............its just expensive..............but on an all out drag motor, its worth it.
Brick 10-06-2003, 11:38 PM Originally posted by got_hp?
well you can convert regular heads to work on the lt1, so you can get some insane heads.............its just expensive..............but on an all out drag motor, its worth it.
Yeah I've heard of some guys doing it but it is easier/cheaper to just buy reverse cooled heads that flow real well like the Canfields did.......
At some point you also have to think about the block cracking in half like a water melon and I'm pretty sure Sikora is just about at that point, but it is nice to say you still are using a production block:D
znines 10-06-2003, 11:55 PM Thanks Guys ! Needless to say I'm thrilled to death.
Some more info on the car and the day,
1st pass 9.006 @159.64 1.397 60ft
2nd pass added 1 degree of timing and softened the front shocks
trying to get some 60 ft time .
Still spun 1.372 60ft.and banged the rev limiter on the 1-2 shift ran 9.159 @154.23.
We only had one more shot at an 8 so we upped the boost .
car again spun 1.399 60ft.and hit the rev limiter again!ran 9.090 @154.95
No 8 today DAMN!
After reading the data log we found that the trans was slipping on the 1-2 shift so that is why we were on the limiter (7700rpm)
So tonight I drain the trans fluid and it is burnt so time for a freshening and hope to get back out soon.
And the cars race weight is 3410 so really not a lightweight but still lighter than G.B
Brick 10-07-2003, 12:06 AM Originally posted by znines
After reading the data log we found that the trans was slipping on the 1-2 shift so that is why we were on the limiter (7700rpm)
So tonight I drain the trans fluid and it is burnt so time for a freshening and hope to get back out soon.
And the cars race weight is 3410 so really not a lightweight but still lighter than G.B
Yeah your car is not a lightweight by any means at 3410lbs (actually it's a bit on the heavy side IMO)......
Good luck on getting your car in the 8's (I'm sure you'll get there):)
jon_we4 10-07-2003, 01:08 AM I;ll have a vid tommorow up if I get the chance
TimbrSS 10-07-2003, 01:16 AM Awesome numbers!!!
How much boost? How much is left in the SC? What gas are you using, and what headgaskets?
IDOXLR8 10-07-2003, 07:36 AM NIce numbers :)
i assume this car isnt streetable? :P
pugs97_30th_Z 10-08-2003, 12:27 AM Originally posted by Seal
i assume this car isnt streetable? :P
Actually he has driven it to club events. As long as long as they are within range of his drum of C16 ;)
Pro Stock John 10-08-2003, 10:08 AM I think Chris has driven it a few miles at a shot, but the gas needed to support this power level is $8 per gallon.
Fast Caddie 10-08-2003, 04:44 PM Originally posted by got_hp?
well you can convert regular heads to work on the lt1, so you can get some insane heads.............its just expensive..............but on an all out drag motor, its worth it.
Not when you consider the strength of the LT block. I'd go with a Dart iron eagle or WP motown block (which can be B/S'd to over 450 cubic inches :eek: ). Then you can just bolt on those wicked heads/intakes and boost or juice the hell out of it without worry of the block splitting.
Congrats Chris!!! Get us our 8sec slip we've been waiting for!
Brick 10-08-2003, 10:53 PM Here is the video.......
http://www.ls1speed.com/movies/chris9.wmv
got_hp? 10-08-2003, 11:21 PM Originally posted by Brick
Here is the video.......
http://www.ls1speed.com/movies/chris9.wmv
wicked
sleeperz28 10-09-2003, 01:43 AM Originally posted by Pro Stock John
Congrats to Chris S. aka Znines for running a 9.006@159mph with his teal 96 LT1 Z/28 yesterday.
I hope that Chris posts up the other 2-3 slips since the MPH was in the 150's for all of them...
He was pretty happy last nite we should have went and got some buffalo wings and some strippers!!!!!!!
First congrats to Chris on running a 9 thats awesome!! However, your statement is pretty bold, "fastest and quickest Lt1". Was this conclusion drawn because no faster times have been posted before? Theres plenty out there that dont visit message boards such as this, including my buddy running his PT88 turbo Lt1.
ULOOSE 10-09-2003, 02:43 AM Thats the fastest Ive heard of next to Baxter,
Id say he has the right to say that..
If your buddy is faster, good for him, but he isnt on this board, and no one knows him, so it doesnt mean a hill of **** to anyone else on this board..
Good for you man, 159mph is quite impressive..
IDOXLR8 10-09-2003, 08:04 AM Originally posted by sleeperz28
First congrats to Chris on running a 9 thats awesome!! However, your statement is pretty bold, "fastest and quickest Lt1". Was this conclusion drawn because no faster times have been posted before? Theres plenty out there that dont visit message boards such as this, including my buddy running his PT88 turbo Lt1.
Do you have any pics of your buddies car? :) Times?
Pro Stock John 10-09-2003, 10:58 AM Chris went faster and quicker than George Baxters best time from two years ago.
sleeperz28 10-09-2003, 12:34 PM Originally posted by ULOOSE
Thats the fastest Ive heard of next to Baxter,
Id say he has the right to say that..
If your buddy is faster, good for him, but he isnt on this board, and no one knows him, so it doesnt mean a hill of **** to anyone else on this board..
Good for you man, 159mph is quite impressive..
Thats the point, its like the old saying, if a tree falls in the woods(the timeslip) and nobody is there to hear it(anyone one on this board), does it still fall?
One may witness/make an 8 second pass on a LT1 block but never go posting it around the internet because it not of great importance. All that may be of importance are the cars with in the area who he or she are competing with.
I dont intend to start a big flame over this I just wanted vent the other variables.
Thats all I wanted to say, thanks!
Chris have you made it a tube car? have you ever strapped the car down on a chasis dyno?
Pro Stock John 10-09-2003, 12:38 PM Chris is a stock frame with stock suspension points.
He has not gotten a full dyno pull on it but it did 740rwhp once on an Eddy current dyno but that was at like 5500 rpms.
JZ 97 SS 1500 10-09-2003, 02:49 PM How much boost was on that run?
Jose
Pro Stock John 10-09-2003, 03:04 PM 21 lbs at peak
30 tooth pulley
JZ 97 SS 1500 10-09-2003, 03:09 PM Very nice......people mention T88 over the YS, but heck the YS and T88 have the same basic output CFM wise. I don't think he would see a big difference is power, other then gain a few ponies from less parasitic loss. Either way...very nice run for him.
Jose
Brick 10-09-2003, 04:30 PM Originally posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
Very nice......people mention T88 over the YS, but heck the YS and T88 have the same basic output CFM wise. I don't think he would see a big difference is power, other then gain a few ponies from less parasitic loss. Either way...very nice run for him.
Jose
http://www.sydwyndr.com/videos/kibler.wmv
This 3300lb 10.5X28" tire V6 regal has a single 88mm turbo and I bet he is faster than any YS-trim car at the same weight!!! The 88 turbo makes more than a few ponies over the YS-trim blower.....
Oh yeah this same car at the same weight has run 5.20 @137mph in the 1/8th recently (still with the single 88mm turbo) and that would be an easy 8.0h-7.90 pass in the 1/4 considering he ran 5.6 in the 1/8th on the 8.30 passes......
Food for thought:)
Guido 10-09-2003, 05:04 PM Originally posted by Brick
http://www.sydwyndr.com/videos/kibler.wmv
This 3300lb 10.5X28" tire V6 regal has a single 88mm turbo and I bet he is faster than any YS-trim car at the same weight!!! The 88 turbo makes more than a few ponies over the YS-trim blower.....
Oh yeah this same car at the same weight has run 5.20 @137mph in the 1/8th recently (still with the single 88mm turbo) and that would be an easy 8.0h-7.90 pass in the 1/4 considering he ran 5.6 in the 1/8th on the 8.30 passes......
Food for thought:)
Holy **** that thing carries the wheels!! :bow:
Brick 10-10-2003, 12:37 AM Originally posted by Guido
Holy **** that thing carries the wheels!! :bow:
Yeah just a little (only to the 300' mark):D
He is a cowboy that likes to ride 'em out!!!:) :cool:
89ProchargedROC 10-10-2003, 01:45 AM i'll bet a dollar thats a large frame 88.....no small frame is going to go that fast; at least that is what the "shops" tell me
JZ 97 SS 1500 10-10-2003, 10:24 AM That is true.....a small frame 88 is probably only good for 155 on a 3500 lbs car. A large frame 88 will make considerable more power.
Jose
neil350 10-10-2003, 12:42 PM Thats amazing times man, and the trap is incredible. :bow: Wont be till a matter of time untill some one goes 8s with an LTx 4th Gen F-car. I wonder what the set up will be though that does. Any case get a fresh trans in and break some more records
Brick 10-10-2003, 02:13 PM Originally posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
That is true.....a small frame 88 is probably only good for 155 on a 3500 lbs car. A large frame 88 will make considerable more power.
Jose
You didn't say anything about large frame or small frame you just said T88:)
89ProchargedROC 10-10-2003, 04:26 PM JZ....a T76 with a Q-trim will go 155 with a properly built turbo setup.
A small frame 88 is good for about 160-162 and midish 8s. I've seen the PTE employee car with a PT88 3 bolt go 8.80s @ 159 and there is a turbostand i know of that has gone 8.90s @ 160
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