2004 SRT4 Neon

Just drove a 2004 SRT4 today, all I have to say is I need more money in my Camaro---those SRT's fly!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

Local guy ran a 13.9x in a bone stock 03 SRT-4 (stock tires.) 03 model = no LSD, the 04's have an LSD available, I wonder what kind of times they'll be putting down. :bow:

I like those cars, just wish they used a different, 2 door body. Just my personal taste I guess.

Ayup, LSD is standard. Combined with the equal length driveshafts, and you've got FWD about as good as your gonna get in terms of traction. Wonder how many 2004s are going to be produced...

-B

Yeah they are pretty quick but until i see one fly by me..............i am not too scared.
:cool:



Chris

Originally posted by 95z28 -quicksilver
Yeah they are pretty quick but until i see one fly by me..............i am not too scared.
:cool:



Chris
They're out there. I have a vid of one stomping an EVO really badly. Probably low 12's

I raced one from about 30 to about 90 it was funny the guys in the car really thought they were going to hurt my feelings they went down almost 3 car lengths

Hey, you race at Kanawha! Cool. I'm from Mason county.

Why the thumbs down? Track conditions such huh.

Yea they run LT1 times or quicker but they'll never get my money

im anxious to roast one of these already.should be fun.:p

Razeak....Thumb down to Kv b/c they dont know how to run a track , conditions suck usually they make up there own rules when they want It usually hooks like a wet parking lot.... We are going friday just b/c my buddy is going to race a mustang and thats the only place he wants to go... Owingsville is a really nice place thats where we usually go

A friend of mine just bought an '04 SRT4. We raced from a stop and from a roll, and we came out dead even both times. From a roll, whoever punched first wins. He had limited slip, but he said he had to pay extra for it. Anyway, him and his other SRT4 buddy figure a stock 04 can run 13.8's with a good driver. Not bad at all.

Yep, these turbo 4 cylinder cars are no joke. But they are friggen expensive . You are still only getting the same car except alot better performance and higher insurance! The same cars without the goody package is half the price probably.

Originally posted by HeavyChevySS
Yep, these turbo 4 cylinder cars are no joke. But they are friggen expensive . You are still only getting the same car except alot better performance and higher insurance! The same cars without the goody package is half the price probably.

Ah, but there's the beauty of the SRT-4, they sell for under $20,000. :cool: Sure, a "regular" Neon is less than that, but it's a totally different car. The only things that are shared between SRT-4 and Neon is body panels

The insurance is high though, as with any car with the word "turbo" in its description. The insurance is still probably less than a 4th gen v8-powered F-body. Maybe not by much, but still less (I would think so anyway.)

A friend of mine just bought an '04 SRT4. We raced from a stop and from a roll, and we came out dead even both times. From a roll, whoever punched first wins. He had limited slip, but he said he had to pay extra for it. Anyway, him and his other SRT4 buddy figure a stock 04 can run 13.8's with a good driver. Not bad at all



Get a good catback and maybe a set of headers and see if that changes the situation a little...........;)



Chris

Originally posted by 95z28 -quicksilver
Get a good catback and maybe a set of headers and see if that changes the situation a little...........;)



Chris

Yup, headers and a good cat back and your laughing.

Yeah but make sure you get that before he gets a boost controller.

Originally posted by NiteRider
Yup, headers and a good cat back and your laughing.

Step #1 complete, just slapped on a Magnaflow yesterday. Had some issues with the hangers/fasteners, but some generic "universal exhaust hangers" saved me today. It really is a cheesy setup, but unless you get under the car you can't see it. It's pretty pathetic, but it keeps them in place and that's all that matters to me :) Now, the exhaust I had before was arguably worse than stock - it was set up very crappily, didnt have a brand name or anything. It was just a replacement muffler and tips, the stock i-pipe was still attached. It was too quiet and I always got walked by similar LT1's in the top end (similar in terms of mods..) Dyno proves magnaflow gives 14hp and 18tq over stock, so I think i probably gained 18hp and 22tq, since that other exhaust didn't flow well at all.

Either way, i *definitely* feel a difference now. I'm chirping second *and* third. :)

no matter how fast a neon is................. its still a pos neon.

Originally posted by whoa guy
no matter how fast a neon is................. its still a pos neon.

On the same note, the owner of a Ferrari could say "no matter how fast that Z is, it's still a POS Camaro." It's all relative.

true....if u've got a ferrari..its like being at the top of the food chain. neons suck period. make a fine daily driver though....

at least an fbody was designed for being a performance car and does it well.a neon is a tin can with turbos.if you like them fine.i just think its a waste of an engine in that car.

What makes the SRT-4 a POS? It shares little (if anything) with the other Neon models, aside from its body. It can run 13s stock (see my first post) What's the big deal?

Like it has been said before...................here it starts........ill check back 9 pages from now.



Chris

i'd take my $5K Trans am that runs over a brand new $20K car that runs just as fast as i do anyday... plus we both know which way the girls are guna look at :D

even 2 fast 2 furious proved that.... that guy revved his engien, and he spooled and all, adn u see the v8 rev, and everyone's jaw dropped :D

Originally posted by Steve Y
First of all it is UGLY:barf:! It is fwd. It is little and has a stupid looking wing on the back. It reminds everybody of an economy car. It has no sex appeal (most sports cars look good, are shapely, etc.). It is fast for the $$, I will give it that.

Most of your statements are subjective. I think 94-98 Mustangs look terrible and have no sex appeal.

The point of the SRT-4 is to demolish all the import sport-compacts and cost less, and it's accomplished that.

Originally posted by andol469
Most of your statements are subjective. I think 94-98 Mustangs look terrible and have no sex appeal.

The point of the SRT-4 is to demolish all the import sport-compacts and cost less, and it's accomplished that.

That's funny, the 94-97 mustangs are the ones that I like the looks of best in the last couple of decades, even though they aren't the fastest. I really don't like the hard corners on the new mustang.

Sorry for being off topic. Like you said though, everyone has their own opinion of which cars look nice. Myself, I don't care for the looks of the Firebirds and Trans Am's, believe it or not. I know, blasphemy.

Dan

Originally posted by stereomandan
That's funny, the 94-97 mustangs are the ones that I like the looks of best in the last couple of decades, even though they aren't the fastest. I really don't like the hard corners on the new mustang.

Sorry for being off topic. Like you said though, everyone has their own opinion of which cars look nice. Myself, I don't care for the looks of the Firebirds and Trans Am's, believe it or not. I know, blasphemy.

Dan

I actually like the look of 4th F-bodies. Go figure. ;)

Oh and Steve, I know you were just answering my question, but I see too many people driving stock Honda Civics or even bolt-on Hondas and think they can talk **** about what a POS the SRT-4 is. Just doesn't make sense to me, if you understand what I'm saying. Personally, I don't care for the looks of the SRT-4. I do think just about all model years of Mustang look better than the SRT-4, except for 94-98. I also hate that the SRT-4 is FWD, but that's part of what keeps it's cost so low, so I'm not complaining.

I will say it again

The dodge 2.4L turbo motor should have been dropped into a Avenger type body style with 2 doors and either been an MR or FR

The next big wave of ricers are going to want drift machines and hopefully Nissan will bring the Silvia over...if that happens Dodge will be back to square one....the srt-4 is ugly....even their owners know this....

Originally posted by andol469
I actually like the look of 4th F-bodies. Go figure. ;)

Oh and Steve, I know you were just answering my question, but I see too many people driving stock Honda Civics or even bolt-on Hondas and think they can talk **** about what a POS the SRT-4 is. Just doesn't make sense to me, if you understand what I'm saying. Personally, I don't care for the looks of the SRT-4. I do think just about all model years of Mustang look better than the SRT-4, except for 94-98. I also hate that the SRT-4 is FWD, but that's part of what keeps it's cost so low, so I'm not complaining.

Don't get me wrong, I love the look of 4th gen Z28's(especially '93-'97), just have never cared for the firebirds and Trans Am's even though they are all f-bodies.

About the SRT-4. To each his own. At least it's stock, and not riced out using aftermarket parts like you see all too often. So what if it's on a cheap chassis/vehicle. If the driver likes it, more power to them. I will tell you this, after being an engineer in the auto industry, and dealing with Chrysler/Dodge, you won't ever catch me buying one of their vehicles.

Dan

Originally posted by SergioEK9B18C5turbo
I will say it again

The dodge 2.4L turbo motor should have been dropped into a Avenger type body style with 2 doors and either been an MR or FR

The next big wave of ricers are going to want drift machines and hopefully Nissan will bring the Silvia over...if that happens Dodge will be back to square one....the srt-4 is ugly....even their owners know this....

The best thing ive ever heard you say! j/k
That would have ruled, the SRT-4 motor in the Avenger body.........i loved that car.

Originally posted by SergioEK9B18C5turbo
I will say it again

The dodge 2.4L turbo motor should have been dropped into a Avenger type body style with 2 doors and either been an MR or FR

The next big wave of ricers are going to want drift machines and hopefully Nissan will bring the Silvia over...if that happens Dodge will be back to square one....the srt-4 is ugly....even their owners know this....

Building a RWD drivetrain for an Avenger would raise the price of the project, and probably make it cost well over $20,000. Not to mention a mid-engine setup, I'm sure that would cost more. Cool idea though.

Originally posted by andol469
Building a RWD drivetrain for an Avenger would raise the price of the project, and probably make it cost well over $20,000. Not to mention a mid-engine setup, I'm sure that would cost more. Cool idea though.

GM could beat them to the punch and release a turbo 4cyl opel speedster here.....MR...turbo...and keep it cheap say 22K?

Drift machine ;)

what the heck does SRT-4 mean anyway. i first heard it i though it was an all-wheel drive neon??.........then later i was like......uh.... SRT-2 perhaps???.....
ahahha

good call.......... didnt think about that

Originally posted by whoa guy
what the heck does SRT-4 mean anyway. i first heard it i though it was an all-wheel drive neon??.........then later i was like......uh.... SRT-2 perhaps???.....
ahahha

Well in my little domestic knowledge I picked up RT stood for Road and Track so the R/T models were performance minded

The S may stand for Sport, Super or whatever but I believe dodge was trying to keep the R/T format alive in the naming process of their performance vehicles

Could you imagine the insurance on a 'drifter'?

Know how many kids would be smashing in to **** in tail happy cars?

drifting :rolleyes:

You mean controlled bad traction. That's what it is.

Dan

Originally posted by stereomandan
drifting :rolleyes:

You mean controlled bad traction. That's what it is.

Dan
definately not the fastest way around a race track, but its fun

Originally posted by stereomandan
drifting :rolleyes:

You mean controlled bad traction. That's what it is.

Dan

Actually its the FASTER way around the courses where the techniques are used

Maintaining constant momentum without scrubing speed is "drifting"

The powerslides your used to seeing with solid rear axle boys is in no way shape or form what "drifinting" is

But as most only drag race in this forum I understand their experience with this is limited to say the least

Insurance companies dont have a "drift" factor into their pricing....but most rice boys dont have the balls to flog their car around a 200* hairpin at 60mph....and if they do...their death will let all the other rice boys know...this isnt a game ;)

Originally posted by SergioEK9B18C5turbo
Actually its the FASTER way around the courses where the techniques are used

Maintaining constant momentum without scrubing speed is "drifting"


If I understood you correctly, you just said that "drifting" is the fastest way around the track.

Originally posted by SergioEK9B18C5turbo
Actually its the FASTER way around the courses where the techniques are used

Maintaining constant momentum without scrubing speed is "drifting"

The powerslides your used to seeing with solid rear axle boys is in no way shape or form what "drifinting" is

But as most only drag race in this forum I understand their experience with this is limited to say the least

Insurance companies dont have a "drift" factor into their pricing....but most rice boys dont have the balls to flog their car around a 200* hairpin at 60mph....and if they do...their death will let all the other rice boys know...this isnt a game ;)

And how many guys actually get a chance to use the drifting technique, or can use it properly? VERY, very few, especially on the street. Calling any street car a drift machine is just plain stupid. It's not going to be used to drift. The car needs to be set up properly and driven well around a road coarse. So, like I said before, it's just controlled bad traction.

Now if by some chance you are a professional racer, I may give you credit, but until then, you don't know what you're doing.

Oh, and by the way, I was not referring to the typical back end kick out that is possible with a rear wheel drive car, like the Z28. Lot's of fun, but not drifting, although it can be used to drift.

Dan

4gen camaros look like a larger version of the geo storm

Golfs look like a shortened version of my gym sneakers.

sounds like you have a good looking pair of gym sneakers;)

baaaaaa

Originally posted by andol469
If I understood you correctly, you just said that "drifting" is the fastest way around the track.

Some tracks yes....

The reason is when you take the time to slow down to negotiate turns with 100% traction.....your slow

The trick to properly using drifting techniques is to know your car very well.....you have to understand the balance of traction/slip/skid

When your in the proper drifting momentum its easier to switch directions in a shorter amount of time.....on a course with mulitple apexes in short succession youd be better off 'drifting' the line as you could enter the turn with max speed while still maintaining positive and controlled forward momentum

The reason why not too many people drift is because most US courses are not very tight or winding....slip angles and entry speed will dictate whether the car will drift or skid....you can control a skid but your not drifting....true drift is art in motion because its a fluid motion .....a skid looks pretty cool but you can tell the driver is mostly just along for the ride

The next time your talking or hear a road race guy talking about how his car is setup most drifters will prefer a 'loose' to neutral setup......if a car is too tight the tires will never break loose and will push all over the place....the key is to have just enough slip to NOT slow you down because 100% traction scrubs speed