BMR or PA racing Kmember

I figured this could be considered LT1 tech not suspension since it has some tech involved. Who has what and how do you like it, either looks good, BMRs is a little cheaper than PA racings chromemoly one, but PA does not list the weight of it, I know BMRs is 24.5 lbs, does anyone know how much PAs weighs.

Also which has better header clearance, PAs looks like it has a lot less material, but I guess that could be bad for structure. Any opinions or pictures of yours?

Pretty much everyone I know uses BMR for their suspension needs, and I haven't heard anyone complain yet. Plus, one of the fastest LT1 s in the country uses BMR stuff. Good luck.

You might want to try a "search". As I recall, there was a thread on this subject about a month or so ago, and the general consensus was that the BMR stuff was a superior quality to the PA parts. But you might want to find the thread and see the comments... I remember posting to it.

yea BMR stuff is the $hit :D i have a ton of their suspension parts and am happy with them all.. i have the BMR K-member with their lower a-arms. To me i just love it cause there is SOOOOOOO much more room under there now. i can change my plugs in like 10min now :) having less weight up front and looking bad a$$ is just a plus :D

The PA I got is first rate. One thing we noticed is that the PA locates the LT1 3/4" further back than stock. This really helped with the supercharger pulley & fluid dampr. Don't know where the BMR orients the engine, but If you do decide to go PA, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

I had a handful of problems with my PA k-member.

Seach for the previous thread that Injuneer mentioned...

Originally posted by TonyJ
....One thing we noticed is that the PA locates the LT1 3/4" further back than stock. This really helped with the supercharger pulley & fluid dampr. Don't know where the BMR orients the engine, but If you do decide to go PA, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Wouldn't that require a new driveshaft? Sounds like an extra expense.

I had to shorten my DS anyway since I was going with the moser...

I have heard of people having problems with the PA k-member. I got the PA k-member, but have no miles on it yet. Will pick up the car next week. :)

The BMR k-memeber is a nice unit and if you have the extra money to spend on one then I would get the BMR.

Injuneer, on a side note, do you have any idea if Spohn has any intentions for making a k-member/a-arms?

I figured that BMR was the way to go, I have a few of their things and am very happy with them, and their customer service it great. Thanks guys.

I have had my P A K MEMBER on for a year. Has been down the track over 100 times. Was a breeze to installl and had no problems with my Hooker LTS . Would highly recomend. This is the only picture I have. Only shows the top side.


P A K-MEMBER (http://people.maxweb.com/allen/uploads/DCP_1263.JPG)

Here's a couple from the bottom. Note that I have all the items that are supposedly a problem with the PA. The Canton pan and Hooker Longtubes. No problems with either... You can see my custom s/c tubing also.

http://www.webpeak.com/~tony/bluez/pa.jpg

http://www.webpeak.com/~tony/bluez/pa2.jpg

Personally, I'm waiting on LG to make a k-member. My purposes might be different than some of you since I road race my car, but too many people I know end up replacing BMR parts with more robust parts once they start tracking their cars. I'm certainly not trusting a k-member to BMR under heavy useage. Maybe for drag racing I'd trust it since the loading would be much less.

Originally posted by BES-383
I have had my P A K MEMBER on for a year. Has been down the track over 100 times. Was a breeze to installl and had no problems with my Hooker LTS . Would highly recomend. This is the only picture I have. Only shows the top side.


P A K-MEMBER (http://people.maxweb.com/allen/uploads/DCP_1263.JPG)

See unlike the PS in the PIC above, the BMR even come's with the motor mount built into the K-MEMBER already.

The engineer at PA said they purposefully steered folks away from the integrated motormounts because they made it impossible to install the engine from the top.

I just put in my BMR K-Member last week, I installed my motor from the top (new motor) and had no problems at all with the integrated mounts.

(edit: it clears my shorty headers no problem, I don't think there would be a problem with longtubes.... the k-member is way smaller than the stock one, lots more room under there.)

So youhave to pull your engine to put the K member in???

Originally posted by SnakEaterZ28
So youhave to pull your engine to put the K member in???

No you don't.

Originally posted by Jason Dove
I just put in my BMR K-Member last week, I installed my motor from the top (new motor) and had no problems at all with the integrated mounts.

(edit: it clears my shorty headers no problem, I don't think there would be a problem with longtubes.... the k-member is way smaller than the stock one, lots more room under there.)

Likewise.. I had ZERO problems with my BMR k-member when putting the motor in from the top. There was no way of getting it in there with my longtubes, but then again there's no way of getting the motor in or out of the engine bay with longtubes. The k-member has nothing to do with it :)

I just helped my friend install a BMR K-member last week. We held the engine in place with an engine hoist & a happy hooker mounted to the intake. Dropped the stock K-member out the bottom. Straight forward swap.

Originally posted by Birdie2000
Injuneer, on a side note, do you have any idea if Spohn has any intentions for making a k-member/a-arms?
I do not believe he will be adding those to his product line. Not positive though. I was talking to him about distributing the Anthony Jones Engineering (AJE) k-member and strut conversion setup, but that is an extremely expensive package. Ultimate weight reduction though, specially with a set of lightweight "drag style" brakes on it.

Any more opinions regarding K-member from PA... i would love to use the CM stuff...

my pa kmember has been in the car for a while.. seems find

does hit passenger hooker lt though but no biggie

santore

I would also like to know the weight savings from:

stock... mild steel /bmr PA--- Chrome moly PA.

If you have that info..

Thanks

Given that the BMR K-Member doesn't have clearance for ASM headers due to the integrated motor mounts, here's a question.

Is BMR and PA stuff interchangeable?? Specifically speaking, the PA K-Member with BMR A-Arms??

Well, you can use the stock A arms with both setups so I don't see why you couldn't use the BMR A arms with either setup. I'd personally stick with BMR's stuff cause it seems more beefy than the PA stuff. I'm planning to use BMR's full setup when my turbo motor is finished. :)

What about their chrome moly stuff? the sad thing about BMR is that there is no chrome moly.

The bang for buck with chromemoly is pretty low. You'd be lucky to save 15 lbs. I've also read that the moly is more brittle and doesn't hold up as well in street applications. Probably BS, but it is expensive for just the weight savings... I've got a real hybrid. PA k-member, BMR upper arms and Global West adjustable lower control arms. It all works fine together. Don't forget to budget for ball joints. They're expensive on f-bodies...

I've got my BMR on the way.

What all bushings and stuff can/need to be replaced while swapping everything over to the new unit?

Did it come with any/all hardware required?

I really like the BMR.... actually I like all of BMR's products! Beautiful welds and great construction all the way round. Plus, the extra clearance (k-member) was a necessity with my setup as it allowed a little more room for the custom headers (no kinky bends needed).

I plan on spending a good deal more $ with BMR... great customer service and a fine company overall. My 2 centavos.

-Mindgame

Great...

Question...

How do you jack up your car???? I dont like the idea from the middle of the k-member.

Originally posted by The Highlander
Great...

Question...

How do you jack up your car???? I dont like the idea from the middle of the k-member.

That's how I normally do it.

Don't jack the car from the middle of your new K member. Jack it from either side on the pads and put the jackstands under your subframes. Or at least that's the way I do it.

The X bar doesn't look like it was designed for vertical support of the car (which it shouldn't have to do under driving conditions), only horizontal support.

Originally posted by Fastbird93
Given that the BMR K-Member doesn't have clearance for ASM headers due to the integrated motor mounts, here's a question.

Is BMR and PA stuff interchangeable?? Specifically speaking, the PA K-Member with BMR A-Arms??

How is this ASM headers and the BMR K-member incompatability arrived at??

I was getting interested in a K-member, but I do have ASM shorty headers. Sort of put me off, but it the incompatability does exist, good info :bow:

thx

LWM

Originally posted by LWM
How is this ASM headers and the BMR K-member incompatability arrived at??

I was getting interested in a K-member, but I do have ASM shorty headers. Sort of put me off, but it the incompatability does exist, good info :bow:

thx

LWM

The motor mount design of the BMR doesn't offer enough clearance for the ASM headers.

It's not a trade off I'm willing to make. I haven't checked into the PA K-Member yet.

The opinion seems to be that tubular K-member cant widstand REAL HARD DRIVING...