TreySpeed 08-31-2003, 07:24 PM I was just thinking, is my 383 going to put my into a rediculious class? I was just reading the SFC thread and I was thinking "well if the motor puts me up there, i might as well go all out"
anywhere i can find class rules?
thanks
trey
V6Bob 08-31-2003, 09:38 PM Classes often vary by location. Your best bet is to go to an event and check it out. They'll have rulebooks there.
I would bet a 383 is going to put you in a serious modified class.
2002Z28SSConv 09-01-2003, 03:29 AM It'll probably either put you in a "race prepared" class or street mod. But it all depends an what club you run with.
bsalie 09-01-2003, 08:48 AM there is a 6.0 L limit on N/A engines in SM, there was talk about allowing over 6.0L in SM2 to let the vipers in. if that is not true them you are in CP on full slicks ( not dot race tires) and completely gutted cars. also they dont allow 17 in rims in CP, unless the car came with them , if so they have to be stock size.
TreySpeed 09-01-2003, 01:22 PM Originally posted by bsalie
there is a 6.0 L limit on N/A engines in SM, there was talk about allowing over 6.0L in SM2 to let the vipers in. if that is not true them you are in CP on full slicks ( not dot race tires) and completely gutted cars. also they dont allow 17 in rims in CP, unless the car came with them , if so they have to be stock size.
:cry:
I'm going to be running 17'' wheels, a 6.3L and its not going to be gutted :(
Norm Peterson 09-01-2003, 07:51 PM Originally posted by TreySpeed
I was just thinking, is my 383 going to put my into a rediculious class? I was just reading the SFC thread and I was thinking "well if the motor puts me up there, i might as well go all out"
anywhere i can find class rules?
thanks
trey Sounds like SM2, as an "over-displacement SM vehicle". You won't have any problem at all making the 2500 lb minimum weight; rather, you likely won't get down anywhere near it.
Here's a link to an unofficial (but pretty reliable) online SCCA rulebook that covers up to SM & SM2: http://moutons.org/sccasolo/.
You'll also want to browse through the "Fastrack" publications available as links at www.scca.org for clarifications and interpretations that are more recent than the 2003 rulebook publication deadline. Since the section in the rulebook for SM/SM2 is so short (SM/SM2 being developing classes), the Fastrack information is of at least equal importance.
Another source of unofficial (but again, usually good) advice is www.sccaforums.com, either in the "Rules and Classing Clarifications" forum or in the individual class category forums.
As far as buying your own rulebook, it's late enough in the season that I'd probably hold off until the 2004 issue is out if that's at all possible.
Norm
JordonMusser 09-01-2003, 08:51 PM Trey-
just autoX it. When it comes down to it, you aren't building a dedicated autoX car(therefor are probably not going to nationals) and at the local level it doesn't really matter.
My GFs car was stock cept for SFCs, so I ran SM and would often TTOD. Its all about driving, that is what makes autoXing fun :)
TreySpeed 09-01-2003, 09:07 PM Originally posted by JordonMusser
Trey-
just autoX it. When it comes down to it, you aren't building a dedicated autoX car(therefor are probably not going to nationals) and at the local level it doesn't really matter.
My GFs car was stock cept for SFCs, so I ran SM and would often TTOD. Its all about driving, that is what makes autoXing fun :)
Thats what I planned on doing.
I didn't want to race against guys that have 100k wrapped up in their cars, thats no fun :yuck:. I'm pretty I can race competatively at school, Last years winner a stock WRX so the car is more than capable of winning.
JordonMusser 09-01-2003, 10:25 PM yea it is, cause if you can drive you will smack around those guys with 100k in there cars. like i said, that is what is nice about autoXing.. if you can drive, you will do well no matter how poorly your car is prepped(to an extent..)
sgarnett 09-02-2003, 09:07 AM You do NOT want to go to SM2. That is the playground of turbo Miatas and the occasional 3rd gen RX7 twin turbo. They can get insane horspower out of those little engines, they have 4 wheel independant suspensions, and they're about 3/4 TON lighter. And at least around here, they can drive ;)
With a 383 you'd be better off in CP, but you NEED to buy a rulebook - it's not an "anything goes" class.
bruecksteve 09-03-2003, 08:12 AM SM2 is only for 2 seaters. SM WOULD be the class BUT your maximum displacement is 6.0 liters. SOoooo EM is your class I think.
axoid 09-03-2003, 03:51 PM I believe that four seat cars are allowed in SM2, but two seat cars are not allowed in SM.
bruecksteve 09-03-2003, 06:53 PM SM - All sedans/coupes (models which were originally equipped with a minimum of four seats and four factory seat belts, not sports car based).
The Camaro/Firebird all SM vehicles.
Now, if you don't meet the minimum weight or displacement requirements, you then go to SM2. You don't want to go there. Of course, you don't want to go to E Mod either.
Norm Peterson 09-03-2003, 07:59 PM One possible solution is to get a set of 16" wheels & tires that would be swapped onto the car for competition only, letting you legally run in CP (assuming that everything else in the car so far is CP-legit). No worries about SFC legality or having to run against entries that might literally weigh less than half of what your car does.
Norm
lons94z 09-06-2003, 12:19 PM I agree. Pick up a set of Real Racing wheels. 16x10. Then some Goodyear or Hoosier slicks. I think the guys (mostly Fox Mustangs) in CP using the 10"tires/wheels use Goodyear slicks. 16x12 Tires and wheels are Hoosiers I think.
You will be underprepared for CP but then again just have fun. There are a few gutted cars out there you could potentially outrun. But there are some that would...well you know.
IMO if you get hooked on autoxing and get into it seriously just buy a 3rd gen car for ESP. They are faster anyhow. Again all IMO.
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