OMG a *must read thread*

http://www.vwdov.ca/forum/showthread.php?threadid=20822

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ok :confused:

:think: What are you doing surfing a rice board boy !!

Those things will have there way with any honduh HAHA !! I love it . Fords svt focus can be upgraded quite a bit too , I wonder if they will step it up and GM has that new Cavilier powerplant thats supposed to be fawking nuts !! Mod or die time now muhahahaa !! :D

thats IT im sold ..

once i get a f/t job and pay some debts i WILL finance a brand new SRT4 and sell the cutty... i need one of these things as a daily driver :D i've loved them since day 1 now they just got better

(i guess there is a little ricer inside of everyone :D)

i just dont know if i should stick with black .. or go all out and get a yellow one :think:

factory mods upto 300 hp :eek: goddamnit .. i WANT ONE NOW :cry:

dave, dont be a fool, a Z06 costs well over 75k .. did u not see a pricetag on a SRT4 ?! dudes its 26,5K :shock:

f*ck i've spent about that much on mods alone on the Z ..

Z 0 6

Sure, a high-13 Low-14 second car is rice, eh? :rolleyes:
The other day i saw a Nissan "Silvia" or 240sx with Silvia kit that supposedly ran 12s. I didnt believe it until he took off from the light like a bat out of hell :eek:
Not all "imports" are rice. The SRT-4 is half import :p

As long as it makes all the honda boy posers cry Im happy !

Whats the dodge rt 2.0 ?? It looks slow but has dual exhaust etc . I was follwed by a guy in a black one the other day that loked like he wanted a go :think: .

BTW 240's suck !! :p

dave .. the SRT4 will not only make honda boys cry .. it'll make stock LT1s cry and hell with a coupla mods i bet it could slice a stock LS1 car like urs too .. sorry man .. its the truth .. 300 hp from factory, in a light car like that !? take that from a roll

and u bet ur ass i'll be stuffing a little bottle in the trunk of the SRT4 too .. :p

Yeah , theve been talking about those on ls1.com / tech too . Im not woried . 5.7 L LS1 + cam + headers + weight reduction + 125 shot = SRTnothin . . . . whos going to be stock :p

Arent those fwhp #'s too ?? Whats the curb weight ?? 2700 ??

Originally posted by Tw!tchb!tch
Yeah , theve been talking about those on ls1.com / tech too . Im not woried . 5.7 L LS1 + cam + headers + weight reduction + 125 shot = SRTnothin :D

its REALLY sad when u gotta drop in a 125 shot and cam and other mods into a LS1 V8 to be able to beat a 4 banger ... ITS A FOUR BANGER DUDE ! :p

sad sad sad i tell ya

i never said it could take a modded Fbody .. if it could id be sh*tting my own pants not worrying about u man :p

doesnt matter if their crank hp#s, fwd cars dont lose too much thru drivetrain .. cuz they aint got much of a drivetrain !! its just a tranny :D

Im on love with them .. thats all i gotta say .. im gonna go test drive one after my finals

Stock for stock they trap 102 ?? :think: how do I need a 125 shot to beat it :confused: I dont need anything to school it . These are already out in the us and have been proven not to be a real threat already , especialy in the top end from what ive read . Better do your racing from a stop to 50 kmph hahaha !! :D

They are cool though !! They were hyping that subaru wrx thing too when they first came out and now nothing . Subaru what ?? :think:

oh trust me .. mine will be a threat to lightly modded Fbodies ;)

300 hp from factory + 75 shot of gas .. u do the math (i hope they dont blow up on nitrous .. gotta find me some SRT forums now :D)

Warranty hahaa !! :D

HOOOOLY SCHIT !! look at what i found

exibit 1 (http://www.atpturbo.com/turbopiping/videos/129SRT416PSI.mpg) ... SRT4 going 12.9 @ 102 on 16 psi and drag slicks

exibit 2 (http://diablo0.servehttp.com/N2K3/P1010090.JPG) ... SRT4 dyno sheet, red is 15 psi, blue is that + 75 shot


OH, MY, GOD, :bow:

IM SOLD .. (sold the camaro for one?) bah never ... but will i have one !? HELL F*CKIN YAH

mmm looks fun. nice to get lots of hp/tq with a small amount of mods

anybody ever driven one of those twin cam iroc daytona turbo
230 hp
there are like only 900 made
they haul but i dont think they are like the srt

WoW, having a N/A motor really sucks ballz...

:eek: Holy crap man those are impressive #'s for such a little machine :bow:

first off that car isnt what its cracked up to be, 300hp?! you gotta be serious,what were you smoking?! try more like 215 which isnt much, herea an article that shows some pros and cons of the car, RICE, and it sucks!

The Dodge Neon SRT-4 is one of the latest entries to the sport-compact market, a screaming yellow zonker with a boy-racer wing and a fake hood scoop. In my personal opinion I think the Neon is quite possibly the ugliest small car on the market. The headlamps are too big, the grille is disproportionately large, and the tail end just looks goofy, like it's sticking its butt into the air like some arrogant housecat. That said, I went to take an SRT-4 for a spin. The idea of a hot-rod Dodge that regular people could afford intrigued me, so I swiped the keys to the retina-burning yellow monster on the dealer's lot and took off.

Power delivery for the SRT-4 comes from a turbocharged and intercooled 2.4L four cylinder. The normally-aspirated version of this engine does duty in the PT Cruiser and Dodge Stratus as base engine. (The base Neon gets a wimpy 2.0L four). In SRT trim the motor makes 215 horsepower and over 200 lb-ft of torque, all channeled through a 5-speed stick to the front wheels only. Wheelspin is abundant--a bit TOO abundant--and it can be difficult to gain purchase on even dry pavement. Going around corners showed this car's biggest weakness. The car makes do with a fully open differential, which means all the power takes the path of least resistance. While this makes it cheaper to build, its omission is a serious mistake for performance enthusiasts.

This car corners excellently for a front-driver. It grabs on to turns and tracks evenly throughout, in a class where the cars are prone to heavy understeer. The tires are well-matched for the performance aspirations, letting you know audibly when you've reached the car's limits (which are quite high). The tires however do not seem to be made for all-season driving. While not a problem in the middle of the desert, those in colder climes may want to consider different rubber, as I nearly lost control when I hit a patch of wet road. Don't ask me how the road got wet, I haven't got a clue.

Fortunately there's plenty of whoa for all this go. Four wheel discs with ABS bring this car to a stop in VERY short order, and after considerable abuse by yours truly, they refused to fade. That definitely made me happy.

As for the interior, there isn't much to write home about. There's white-face guages (which I liked) and a lot of fake carbon fiber trim everywhere. I know it was fake because they'd never put the real stuff in a $20,000 econobox-turned-hotrod.

All this said, I don't think it's a car I could live with. Why? Well, there's a couple reasons. First off the exhaust, which the salesman described as "powerful" sounded more to me like the muffler was about to fall off. Loud does not equal powerful.

The other problem was the suspension. While it provides for a great-handling car, it also provides a harsh ride. While you sort of expect that in a car like this, it was rough on the relatively smooth New Mexico roads. Imagine owning a car like this in Pennsylvania? Your fillings would rattle out of your teeth.

There's also the matter of that stupid wing on the back. If only it was a delete-option, but it's not. At least on the Evolution you can get a more understated piece. This one has a tendency to impair your visibility and enhance others visibility of you. Specifically others who drive Crown Victorias with lights on the roof. The yellow paint didn't help either.

The final verdict? Well the final verdict is, I don't know. On the one hand it's a real fast car for not much money. On the other it's rough, loud and could be difficult to live with. I guess this one's a judgement call.

If this kind of car appeals to you, but you find the Neon is just too rough to live with, you've got a lot of choices. There's the Ford Focus SVT, Mazdaspeed Protege, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, Subaru Impreza WRX, VW Golf GTI, VW New Beetle Turbo/Turbo S, Mazda Miata, Nissan Sentra SE-R and Spec-V, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Honda Civic Si, and probably a few more that I missed. Jeez there's a lot of these things!!

(NOTE: I rated this car average in reliability due to Chrysler's reputation for less-than-perfect workamanship. A turbocharger adds complexity and could make this car more repair-prone than other models, especially as it gets older.)

(EDIT: As of this writing, Dodge is apparently addressing some of the issues. Mopar Performance is making available several performance parts, including a limited-slip differential, short-throw shifter, ceramic-coated intake manifold, gauge packages, a blow-off valve, and a "stage 1" turbo upgrade, boosting the Neon's horsepower and torque to 240 and 260, respectively. The addition of an LSD will greatly improve traction off the line and in turns, and the extra power won't hurt either. Parts are due to be available at any Dodge dealer for install on any SRT-4 starting in late June/early July 2003)
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that article was the stupidest thing i've ever read .. the guy obviouslt didnt know jack and he was talking about a base 03 model... the 04 model comes with LSD stock and yes u can get them with 300 hp FROM THE FACTORY .. jason, go read an official document before u pass judgement not some amatuer movie review type article from a guy who only says the negatives!

sorry man .. the dyno tells the truth .. 378 wheel hp and 396 wheel torque sounds big enough to slice most modded Fbodies (including urs and mine) and every other NA fbody on this board.. so dont be jealous ;) im not .. i'll have one soon :D

I can't wait to see what I'll dyno, prolly nothing :(

Why is this a "must read" thread? :rolleyes: :confused:

This vehicle is just a fad and the hype will pass just like the 300ZX of the past, and WRX of the present. The price is reasonable and the performance speaks for itself...but what about the reliability? The resale value? Suspension geometry? Options? The fact that every second person and their dog will probably own one? IMO, the styling sucks...it looks like a hopped up Neon. For all these reasons, I think I'll pass...

But to each his own...and if Payam is lured by the Mopar charms of tomorrow, then we should let him and laugh behind his back ;).

Originally posted by LuCiFeR97Z28
But to each his own...and if Payam is lured by the Mopar charms of tomorrow, then we should let him and laugh behind his back ;).

u'll get to laugh behind the back of my tail lights b*tch :p

and im not just talkin about the camaro here :death:

Wow, when someone in a Honda bashes the f-body, the f-body guys get mad. "All those Hondas guys have to argue about against the F-body is it's reliability, gas mileage and interior"
Now that the SRT-4 poses a threat to the F-body, it's all of a sudden attacked on the same points as the Honda buys attacked Camaros about.
Wow, it has bad resale value? It runs high 13s, low 14s stock.
Wow, the interior "sucks" It can be modded for so cheap.
Wow, it's a FAD? It's fast ,what's your point
The f-body could be a "fad" too :rolleyes:

Just cause u like it doesnt me we will ! !! Its a front scratcher , thats enough to rule it out for me . Neet concept and I hope it schools the honda boys for sure .

You guys and your 'schooling the Honda boys'... LOL... most Honda guys LOVE the SRT-4! Why? Because it's competition in the marketplace! Unless everyone pulls their head out their A$$E$ this Dodge thing is gonna walk away from everyone! Heck, if I had any need of a new car I wouldn't even consider buying anything else! Like most Honda guys we're sick of overweight, overpriced, underpowered crap coming out lately! The only Honda worth buying is the RSX Type S because the K-series engine shows promise, but that car's freakin' expensive compared to an SRT-4!

:bow: to Dodge for big balls!

This just in:

http://cnn.heavyplasma.com/www/cnn/2003/NEWS/08/04/world/48987index.html

Actually I just heard it was a joke. *sigh* :rolleyes: Some joke.

I think that is a joke...OIL PUMP...never running again?!
Hahahahahaha :D

I like it :thumb: It is a cool toy and for the price can't go wrong, would be a great daily driver :)

Originally posted by mr00jimbo

The f-body could be a "fad" too :rolleyes:

Them are fightin' words boy...:mad:.

A fad that has been around for 35 years, and will likely return once GM figures out how to get the marketing right... OK there!

15psi and dodge dont mix, that thing will last 2 months max the way u guys drive, if you think that thing is da bomb, then you dont belong in a f body cuz all it is is domestic rice burner, its **** i dont care what anyone says, and its a pos dodge to boot, they cannot make a turbo car work for the life of them. i say bring it when you get it cuz ill never bow down to a 4 banger pos like that, ill be laughing my way to the finish line when you dump the clutch and it pukes itself all over mrp!!:rolleyes: lol

As far as im concerned its 215hp, until i see some proof from a trust worthy site that says otherwise.

And for the recall on oil pump...its dodge, what did you expect?:dead:

I got diced by a turbo lancer in my old camaro , was so imbarasing getting whipped by a four door pos :D

Jason . no diss bud.. but its this same way of thinking thats got u stuck with a carburator ... i bet u would keep a mini dinasour as a pet if u could still find them :rolleyes: !!

I dont belong in an Fbody !? tell me that the day u go faster than me... untill then .. know ur place, behind me :p

lol fuel injection is for people who have too much money to waste, my car didnt come with FI so why would i put it on? if you go to a race carb outnumbers FI about 85% easy over it.complicated electronics have no place in a race car, especially an older one. the nos kit is coming in a month so your on buddy!:p

Originally posted by Draco
A fad that has been around for 35 years, and will likely return once GM figures out how to get the marketing right... OK there!

Bell Bottoms were a fadd that was really strong at one time, then was still around, but not a "trendy" thing. Happened in the 80s-early 90s then again when the f-body died :p

why won't this thread die :death:

Carbs...:rolleyes:

C'mon man, even Car Craft is pushing fuel injection now, and it doesn't get any more old-skool than Car Craft. :o

someone lock this stupid thread.... its turned to shat. its not even about the damn car anymore.... god damn

I would keep a mini dinasour as a pet for sure !! That would rock but sept It might eat my cat :cry:

dinasour... cat.... dinasour.... cat... hmmmmmm...

Maybe Ill get a mini Vegi eating dinosour and the'll be freinds !!

Originally posted by Tw!tchb!tch
Maybe Ill get a mini Vegi eating dinosour and the'll be freinds !!


no then it'll eat talos as he seems to have turned into a frootcake lately :p

what that duece?

no then it'll eat talos as he seems to have turned into a frootcake lately

HAHAA !! :D :Owned:

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Talos needs a neon to be kewl :cool: