What would a Trans Am look like with...

... it's tail feather (rear spoiler) removed? Should I be the first to try or does anyone else wanna volunteer???

HInk ;)

I think it would look just like the bank end of those 2nd gen Esprits.

How much weight would it save ya?

Mark

It would look Gay;)

Originally posted by dreamer1q
It would look Gay;)

But that would tie in with the whole "Rainbow Pride" theme he has going though wouldn't it? ;)

You definitely wouldn't be the first. Over on ls1tech.com a few guys have done it.
As I recall, they picked up a MPH or two in the 1/4.

It sorta made it look like the rear-end of a 2nd gen Ford Probe.

Originally posted by cASe SenSiTive


It sorta made it look like the rear-end of a 2nd gen Ford Probe. Ahhh yes, the car Ford built for the woman in you. Seems to fit the theme:p

Originally posted by Redbird
... it's tail feather (rear spoiler) removed? Should I be the first to try or does anyone else wanna volunteer???

HInk ;)

If it's a 4th gen., it'd look like a Sunfire with a fat ass.

Originally posted by SSpdDmon
If it's a 4th gen., it'd look like a Sunfire with a fat ass.
DING DING
we have a winner

It adds like 300 tons of down force on the big end to keep the Hoosiers hooked, to prevent tire spin at 1000+ feet.:rolleyes: :eek:


HInk

yeah, Ive seen it in pics. it sure looked, umm, kinda stupid. plus, MPH doesnt win races, E.T. does.

Carbon Fiber replica is the only way to go, Kevin. Along with wind tunnel time to minimize drag.

In other words...Keep it. It would be like...wrong to remove it.:(

Originally posted by IrocSS85
yeah, Ive seen it in pics. it sure looked, umm, kinda stupid. plus, MPH doesnt win races, E.T. does.

Higher MPH=lower ET

Originally posted by cASe SenSiTive
Higher MPH=lower ET

Not always man... I beat that supercharged vette at the nats. he trapped 125+mph and I only trapped 117.

ET depends on traction, shifts, suspension setup, driver error, etc.
MPH just says how fast your car came through the big end.

Have you seen the GN guys that sit at the line and spool the turbo even after the light is green? 5 second reaction times don't win races, even if they are going going 8.85 at 154mph

Originally posted by Timberwolf
Not always man... I beat that supercharged vette at the nats. he trapped 125+mph and I only trapped 117.

ET depends on traction, shifts, suspension setup, driver error, etc.
MPH just says how fast your car came through the big end.

Have you seen the GN guys that sit at the line and spool the turbo even after the light is green? 5 second reaction times don't win races, even if they are going going 8.85 at 154mph

But the same car, with the same traction but with a higher mph because of reduced drag should et faster

Shut yer hole:D

Originally posted by ROADRAGE
But the same car, with the same traction but with a higher mph because of reduced drag should et faster

Shut yer hole:D

nope, you're still too narrow minded on it :) there's a lot more to it...we could ET the same and him go a lot faster due to turbo lag, gearing, etc. All I am saying is higher MPH does NOT automatically assume lower ET.

There's a guy on the michigan speed board that has a DSM with 503hp and only 370 or so tq. and runs 10s. Think his MPH would be the same as a N/A car running 10s?

Look bonehead, we are talking about one car. If your car runs 12.44@115 consistantly. You then do some aero mods to the SAME car and it consistantly runs 2 mph faster, but has the same driver, same tires, same gears, you are gonna et faster.

allright hink, look what you started now. so, you started it, now you settle it. next time at the track, make a pass w/it on. then unbolt it and make another pass, leaving everything else the same. Im still betting, in this case, there will be no significant (sp?) improv. in et. and maybe 1-2 mph higher in trap speed. what do you think?
chris

Originally posted by IrocSS85
allright hink, look what you started now. so, you started it, now you settle it. next time at the track, make a pass w/it on. then unbolt it and make another pass, leaving everything else the same. Im still betting, in this case, there will be no significant (sp?) improv. in et. and maybe 1-2 mph higher in trap speed. what do you think?
chris

I am sooo confused as to your thinking. Do you think his 60' is going to get worse because he lost the wing? Is it stays the same, but he picks up 2 mph, why would his et stay the same. That makes absolutely no sense.

BTW Hink, It would look like ****.

Timber is right a car that MPHs more than another car doesn't necessarily make it ET faster.

Roadrage is right if I take something off of my car that will make it MPH faster then it darn well better ET quicker too. Unless the pice removed effects traction.

Your both right but you're talking apples and doughnuts.

As previously mentioned by AL, any weight removed SHOULD lower ET, same traction provided of course.

I would predict that removing the wing would do nothing at all as far as aerodynamics goes. Remember the IROC Firebirds? They had to add 2-3 " more material to the wing to even get it to cut into the wind, TRUE STORY.

Bascially ALL street spoilers are show stuff anyway and have little if any affect at air redirection. In the case of the tall T/A wing, I think a big enough hole has been opened in the air to make it as useless as rainbow stripes.

Besides... the ORIGINAL question was: What would a T/A look like without the rear wing? Answer: A Neutered Formula? ;)

HInk