Speed limiter

Is there an easy way without buying a hypertech to get rid of my 120mph speed limiter. You never know when a vette will try to play.

2000 Z28 w/ASR traction control

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2000 Silver Z28
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120mph??? Are you serious? Why is it so low, is that because of where you live?

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Your car probably came with non Z-rated tires, which if that is the case you shouldnt raise the limiter. that is done out of concern of safety.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z28-CTYHNTR:
120mph??? Are you serious? Why is it so low, is that because of where you live?
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LOL, yes the Moon's gravitational pull is very strong where he lives. http://web.camaross.com/bb/tongue.gif

It has to due with tires. If your car didn't come with "Z" rated tires, you couldn't go over 120mph. http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Toddzzz:
Is there an easy way without buying a hypertech to get rid of my 120mph speed limiter.</font>

.....maybe. I would suggest getting some "Z" rated tires, and then going to a GM dealership and asking if they could remove it for you. Depenind on how well you know the mechanic, or how much you "tip" him, you may get it fixed without getting a HPP.

I hope this helps.
Milo

I have a 99 Z that i bought 2 months ago and (I know its not a LEGAL thing to do) BUT i got curious one day and i took it up to 143 (stock, no mods) so I dont see why a Z28 would have a Limiter??????

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already got the Z'S on it.

Stock w/o Z rated tires= 118 mph limiter
Stock with Z rated tires= 163 mph limiter
HPP3 can do away with limits.
Dave

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Why do they have this limiter on it?? I saw something about the tires, but does that really make that big of a difference??

BTW only had mine up to 120

Rob

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Just a guess... Product liability?

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ratio411:
Just a guess... Product liability?</font>

DING DING DING DING And Ratio411 wins the prize.

The tires aren't rated to go 160+ MPH, so for that reason GM limits the car to stay within the rated limits of the tires.

Let's say your tires are rated for 125 MPH and your limiter is set at 163 MPH. Then you, like a dumbass, go flying down the interstate at 135 MPH and ***KABOOOOOM*** you have a tire failure, flip the car several times, take out 2 mini vans filled with soccer moms and 14 kids and everyone is killed or injured so badly that they wish they were.

Now ... enter the ambulance chaser lawyers ... The families of the soccer moms sue your ass off for wreckless endangerment and vehicular homicide. They win (duh). They then sue GM for the same reasons you do in the next paragraph.

Now, you hire your own lawyer and sue GM saying that they shouldn't have made the car able to drive faster than the tires are rated. (irregardless of the fact that you were doing 135 in a 60 MPH zone) You win 5.8 Gazillion dollars for pain and suffering, injuries to yourself and wrongful inprisonment for vehicular homicide. This in turn allows you to appeal the earlier judgmet against you since it was GM's fault, not yours.

So you get out of jail and the soccer moms and their families win their lawsuits against GM as well, getting 15.8 GazillionBillion dollars, and put GM out of business, forcing all of us to now drive Mustangs because the entire GM product line is gone forever.

Now do you understand why there is a limiter? http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif

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[This message has been edited by rncotton (edited August 08, 2002).]

Does anyone know the code inside the door panel that tells if the tires are z rated or not?

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how about just reading the tire sidewall and seeing if it say 275/45/ZR17
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[This message has been edited by MikeLT1Z28 (edited August 08, 2002).]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeLT1Z28:
how about just reading the tire sidewall and seeing if it say 275/45/ZR17</font>

LOL ... you might want to update your sig since the website for your timeslip is gone.

I don't Agree with rncotton because just because your tires are not Z rated doesnt mean going over 120mph a blow out will happen( Im proof ) but check it for yourself

Rating Maximum Speed
Q 99 mph
S 112 mph
T 118 mph
U 124 mph
H 130 mph
V 149 mph
W 168 mph
Y 186 mph
Z Above 149 mph


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rncotton:
DING DING DING DING And Ratio411 wins the prize.

The tires aren't rated to go 160+ MPH, so for that reason GM limits the car to stay within the rated limits of the tires.

Let's say your tires are rated for 125 MPH and your limiter is set at 163 MPH. Then you, like a dumbass, go flying down the interstate at 135 MPH and ***KABOOOOOM*** you have a tire failure, flip the car several times, take out 2 mini vans filled with soccer moms and 14 kids and everyone is killed or injured so badly that they wish they were.

Now ... enter the ambulance chaser lawyers ... The families of the soccer moms sue your ass off for wreckless endangerment and vehicular homicide. They win (duh). They then sue GM for the same reasons you do in the next paragraph.

Now, you hire your own lawyer and sue GM saying that they shouldn't have made the car able to drive faster than the tires are rated. (irregardless of the fact that you were doing 135 in a 60 MPH zone) You win 5.8 Gazillion dollars for pain and suffering, injuries to yourself and wrongful inprisonment for vehicular homicide. This in turn allows you to appeal the earlier judgmet against you since it was GM's fault, not yours.

So you get out of jail and the soccer moms and their families win their lawsuits against GM as well, getting 15.8 GazillionBillion dollars, and put GM out of business, forcing all of us to now drive Mustangs because the entire GM product line is gone forever.

Now do you understand why there is a limiter? http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif

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Damn Dude, that is SO SMOOOOOOOOOTH!! Nice job, BRAVO, BRAVO!!! Later..........

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 99Z28RS:
I don't Agree with rncotton because just because your tires are not Z rated doesnt mean going over 120mph a blow out will happen( Im proof ) but check it for yourself

Rating Maximum Speed
Q 99 mph
S 112 mph
T 118 mph
U 124 mph
H 130 mph
V 149 mph
W 168 mph
Y 186 mph
Z Above 149 mph


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no, its not necissarily true that if you go faster than 120 without z rated tires they will blow and everyone will die horrible deaths. the point is, if you don't know what speed rating your tires are....... don't mess with the speed limiter http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif. an easy way to get dead =P.

I know of no state that it is legal to drive
120 mph let alone 160.If you get caught you
lose your licence and or your insurance
skyrockets.The speed rating will not help you there.Bring on the German autobahn!
I do know a little county road near me.Straight for 2 miles,no driveways,little
traffic, no highway patrol.I let her rip.

2002 Z28 M6

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 99Z28RS:
I don't Agree with rncotton because just because your tires are not Z rated doesnt mean going over 120mph a blow out will happen</font>

I agree with that statement. But the if the tires are not rated for it, then you're just asking for trouble.

It's like a bridge .... the bridge has a sign saying that it is only rated for 5,000 pounds. If you drive over it in your 5,500 pound truck, with the bridge collapse? Probably not, becuase there is a margin of safety built in. But, if you drive over it in your 5,500 pound truck and it does collapse, then it's your fault because there was a sign.

Now, same scenario, but no warning sign on the bridge. You drive your 5,500 pound truck across the bridge and it collapeses. Who is liable now? You were allowed to cross the bridge and there was no sign.

So no, driving 135 MPH on S rated tires doesn't mean that they will blow, but it does mean that they are not rated for that speed and if they do blow, the manufacturer will no be held liable. Same for the governer on the car. It's a liability thing.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by slick willy:
I know of no state that it is legal to drive
120 mph let alone 160.If you get caught you
lose your licence and or your insurance
skyrockets.The speed rating will not help you there.Bring on the German autobahn!
I do know a little county road near me.Straight for 2 miles,no driveways,little
traffic, no highway patrol.I let her rip.

2002 Z28 M6</font>

how about one of those northern states where they did away with the highway limit a few years ago?

yes ron, i haven't been here in a while and thanks to jim hogan....

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Yep them German Autobahn's are fun. But you need the Z-rated tires. I hit my 6200 RPM rev limiter at the top of 5th gear on my '01 Z. You do the math at how fast I was moving. My limiters have been changed with a HPP3, so yes it was possible. I just wished 6th would pull and not drop off.

Who the **** is ever going to take their Camaro past 163 MPH??? A stock Camaro could only pull that with the right conditions and lots of straight, flat road. 163 mph is way more than I'll ever need. I would maybe go to about 150 but past that is just crazy.

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Yes, Toddzzz should worry about doing something to his car to get up to 120 mph a little bit faster than it does, because right now it's a dog and is getting smoked by everyone else before he even reaches 120 mph. So you better have a long stretch to hit 163 mph. Mine has a limiter of about 255 mph and have never hit it.

See ya at the strip brotha.

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Not sure what my limit is set at only had my Z to just over 130 before I got flashed. State trooper just up the road with someone pulled ove =).Glad it wasn't me .

Tom

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Aneurysm:
Who the **** is ever going to take their Camaro past 163 MPH??? A stock Camaro could only pull that with the right conditions and lots of straight, flat road. 163 mph is way more than I'll ever need. I would maybe go to about 150 but past that is just crazy.
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I would. I used to go 150 daily on my commute to and from work. Just a luxury of living in Houston. We have loads of wide open freeways.

I cant wait till my new one breaks in.. It will meet its limiter.. hehe

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Aneurysm:
Who the **** is ever going to take their Camaro past 163 MPH??? A stock Camaro could only pull that with the right conditions and lots of straight, flat road. 163 mph is way more than I'll ever need. I would maybe go to about 150 but past that is just crazy.

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