No Softener?!?

I've tried the whole Zaino deal, where you wash your towels with no fabric softener, and I'm not sure if doing this left swirl marks, or if the marks were there before and just didn't come out w/ the amount of polish that I put on. Can you really get your towels soft enough without softener, or should I just chalk this up to a tip that I won't ever use?

You are correct in using no fabric softner, but this is true for any car wax or polish, some of the fabric softners can leave streaks on you cars finish. Depending on how often you wash and polish your car you will need to stop using the towels on the paint when then start getting a little rough to the feel, then take those towels and use them for the windows or interior and then get some new towels for the paint, I get about 6 months from a towel before it's to rough for the paint.

Or, for the best, just buck down and grab microfiber.

www.microfibertech.com

Or could Zaino have their own "superfiber" towel in the works. :eek: :eek: :eek: You will just have to wait and see. :p :p

Oh, don't even start with that you punk! I just ordered $70 worth of Elite MFT towels, I already have to upgrade to the new Z2 and ZFX, and now you're telling me there's MORE new Zaino coming out? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR! :D :cool: ;)

Ya know... you're the kinda guy we all love and hate at the same time, hahahahaha.

No hard feelings, but I might have to swat ya across the noggin with my waffle weave :lol:

Originally posted by hcvone
Or could Zaino have their own "superfiber" towel in the works. :eek: :eek: :eek: You will just have to wait and see. :p :p



Hey! What about those of us who don't want to wait! :p :o ;)


Seriously, if they are better than the Elite MF towels, count me in! I've been extremely happy with the Elites, so the "Superfiber" must rock!! :D


And for the original question....I only wash my towels with a liquid detergent, nothing more.

Mike
:)

I do them by hand with a mild, unscented hand soap and dry them in the dryer on "fluff only, low heat".

Where can I get some of those Microfiber towels at?

Originally posted by SiggyBaby
Where can I get some of those Microfiber towels at?


www.microfibertech.com or www.autofiber.com - The owner of these sites is the same, however he recently opened up AutoFiber specifically for auto detailing.

Or, www.dftowel.com for natural MF towels. AFAIK, these are the only "natural" MF towels available currently.

Both sources are very high quality, very reputable, have good quality control, and reasonable prices. There are several other sites selling inferior MF, yet are much more expensive!

:)

My job has been testing MF towels over the last 3 years, I am sure I have well over 400 of them and that figure maybe on the low side, I have yet to find any (including all the ones listed above) that will not scratch, some batch are fine no problems, the next batch from the same manufacturer scratches, I have been pulling my hair out for years, so what did we do? We have been working with an AMERICAN company in AMERICA to make a "superfiber" towel, more to come in the future. You guys know we never stop looking for the best, and we never will. ;)

So Carl, that mean you have some old MF's you'd donate to a poor college boy? :D :cool:

Originally posted by hcvone
I have yet to find any (including all the ones listed above) that will not scratch, some batch are fine no problems, the next batch from the same manufacturer scratches,


OH NO!:eek: I just ordered a bunch of 'em.

We are a little more "anal" than most about how we test these towels, I am sure they will work fine for your needs, but we sell to people that their cars paint cost more than some on my cars, and I have nice cars :eek: :eek:

Originally posted by Error - BADRAP
So Carl, that mean you have some old MF's you'd donate to a poor college boy? :D :cool:


I just might be able to do something after I finsh with them ;) Don't tell Mike LS though, he may want some too. :p :eek: :p :eek:

Haha. Hey, for a college kid with no money, I'm proud to say I'm quite anal about my truck being clean. Course... my glovebox is still a mess :D

Due to my current lack of MF towels though, I had to dry mine the old cotton way. I used less pressure than a quail feather, and it took 20 minutes and 3 towels to get it dry. I'm so paranoid about scratching my clearcoat now thanks to you guys :p

Originally posted by hcvone
We are a little more "anal" than most about how we test these towels, I am sure they will work fine for your needs,

I am extremely anal. I may need therapy.:shame:

Originally posted by hcvone
I just might be able to do something after I finsh with them ;) Don't tell Mike LS though, he may want some too. :p :eek:


Nah, I just need another "shirt." :D :D :p ;)



Oh, and maybe a few "superfibers." :D


Mike
:bow:

Yeah, when you're done testing the SF towels, Mike and I got first dibs :p

No I said when I am done with the MF towels, the superfiber towels are mine. :p :p :p :p

Originally posted by hcvone
No I said when I am done with the MF towels, the superfiber towels are mine. :p


Ok Ok, you win... :p But, in return for you keeping the SF towels for yourself, I'll require 5 free bottles each of the new Z2 and Z5.....plus a "shirt." :eek: :p :D ;) Sounds fair to me! :o :D


Mike
:bow:

Originally posted by MikeLS
Ok Ok, you win... :p But, in return for you keeping the SF towels for yourself, I'll require 5 free bottles each of the new Z2 and Z5.....plus a "shirt." :eek: :p :D ;) Sounds fair to me! :o :D


Mike
:bow:

Uhmm... so... when are these towels available eh?

:thumb: Good enough :D :cool:

It does not sound fair to me :( :cry: :( :cry: We can always find you a shirt though, you will have to talk to Sal about your free Z-2 & Z-5, but I will make you this deal, as soon as Sal starts sending it to me for free I will send it to you for free :p That should be when hell freezes over. ;)

Originally posted by bsdstud
Uhmm... so... when are these towels available eh?


Soon I hope. You may have to fight Mike for some of them :p :p

And me! I want some!

Are we talking about Zaino shirts? I'll proudly wear one. :D Especially if they're SF or MF ;)

I have heard that Mike wears MF clothing, could this be true? :eek: :eek:

I have an MF shirt, but it's more for wearing on a hot day and staying cool. The MF they used is super scratchy. Comfortable as can be though on a hot day.

Originally posted by hcvone
I have heard that Mike wears MF clothing, could this be true? :eek:


Hmmm, how many Elite towels would it take to cover all the essential areas? :lol::lol:

Actually, yes, I found the Zaino line of clothing in the local mall that was clearly made from leftover MF that Sal and Carl had tested over the years. I mean, hey, he had to do "something" with all those scratchy MF towels right?? :D :D :eek: Nothing goes to waste in Zaino-land! :lol: I did have to return one Z shirt though that obviously had a Z5 stain.


Didn't you guys get the latest Z catalog?? Look at all those new products! :eek:

The Z-32 shirt: $49.95!
Z-35 shorts: $55!
Z-45 pants: $60!
Z-20 cap: $30!
Z-1000 business suit - $500
And, my favorite, the Z-60 underwear! $10
All garments contain UV protection, and are guaranteed to outlast and outshine all competitors!

Mike
:D

Mike,

Put down the coffee...
Back away slowly...
If you resist, you can fight this...
You'll be back to normal in no time...

Originally posted by MikeLS
Hmmm, how many Elite towels would it take to cover all the essential areas? :lol::lol:

Mike
:D



I have heard not many towels would be required to cover all the "essential" areas :eek: :eek: :p :p

So Carl, you recommend I hold off on getting some MF towels and go with some Charismas until the SF towels come out? :D

I have no date for release of these towels at this time, you can always use MF towels for many parts of the car.

Thanks Carl. I'm just going to stick with what's working nicely for me right now which is 100% cotton towels. :) Once these SuperFibers come out I'll look into trying them out.