If you guys had my car...what would you do?

Ok, you have a 2001 Sunset Orange Metallic Z28. It has an M6 and is bone stock. My budget is 2,000 so leave room for installation. Thanks guys
jON

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2001 Z28 Sunset Metallic Orange
bone stock till 2.5 years or 33,000 more miles!

1968 Camaro
Jasper 350
Jasper 3 Speed Auto
Dakota Blue

PS... No cut-out!!

Breathing first, Lid (your choice), SLP MAS, Holly PowerShot filter, Exhaust of choice (Corsa my fav) Jet Stage II Module. Next suspension - definetly SFC,STB,LCA and PHR. Check my signature for the rest.

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01 Sunset Orange SS
T-Tops, Neutral Leather, ASR, Hurst 6spd, ASR, SS Grill.
348RWHP - 352Max Torque .
Mods package: Lou's Short Stick, BMR- STB, SFC, LCA, Front & Rear Sway Bars, Torque Arm and APHR. Corsa Exhaust, SLP MAS, Lid, Smoothe bellows and Y-Pipe. Holley Power Shot filter,Hotchkis Springs, KVR cross drilled rotors, Bilstein shocks,
Jet Stage II Programmer, Hypertech 180 degree Thermostat, MSD wires, NGK IX 55 plugs, Royal Purple Synthetic package. ProFormance-MotorSports Inc. proform1@bellsouth.net

Shifter 1st!!!! Get a good one. Then Exhaust and air lid.

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RobertoZ28 '98 Z28 6spd
-SLP clutch assem., & billet Steel flywheel.
-SLP Shifter, knob, & Lou's short stick.
-SLP Loudmouth 3.5" slash tips
-SLP skip shift elemitator.
-SLP Airbox with K&N.
-Free air mod.
(13.698 @ 106.383mph)
My Car (http://camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/robertoz28)

shifter, 4:10's, lid, exhaust....perfect combo for 2k.

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1999 Camaro SS A4 Black/Black/Dark Gray w/ Torch Red Hood Scoop and Torch Red Rear Stripe... 3:23 || SLP Loudmouth || SLP AirBox Lid w/ K&N || SLP Bowtie Grille || SLP CAI || SLP SFC || SLP STB || AZP&S Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator w/ 3psi Boost || Sullivan Aluminum Racing Pedals || Yank ST3500 || B&M 24K Tranny Cooler || Jet-Hot Hooker LT Headers w/ ORY || Hypertech 160 T-Stat || SLP Fan Switch || 17 x 9.5 Aluminum Z06 Wheels || Nitto 555R's || Macewen White Faced Gauges w/ Red Dash Bulbs || Xenon Headlights.

spend it on your 68 Camaro.. http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif

you can't get much better than a hurst shifter, you've already have an ss, there's not much to do, the car is already perfect. yeah an exhaust if you want it. black stripes would be my first thing.

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Fast Toys Ram Air, filter (K&N or Holley), Direct-Flo lid. 3" exhaust (your choice). ASP crank pulley. BMR shock tower brace and subframe connectors (double-diamond design)
I don't have a stick but I guess a new shifter would be nice too http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif
You should even have a few $$$ left over for some other stuff http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif

Ok, I am thinking about getting the package deal from LS1motorsports.com You get a direct flow air lid, Holley Powershot Filter, SLP 85mm Mass Airflow sensor, and Corsa Cat-Back for 880$$

That would be all the performance parts I would get. Next would be suspension. How about BMR sfc's and stb. I supppose I will throw in a Short Stick from lou as well. This would leave me about 1,000 for rims and tires. I really want Y2K C5 rims and I have a place that I can get brand new non oem chrome 5 spokes for around 900$ Tires will have to be next summer I guess.

You comments would be apprecieated. Thanks a bunch.
jON

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Smitty01Z28:
Ok, I am thinking about getting the package deal from LS1motorsports.com You get a direct flow air lid, Holley Powershot Filter, SLP 85mm Mass Airflow sensor, and Corsa Cat-Back for 880$$
jON</font>

Can't beat that, go for it.

SFCs are a good idea too, the Kenny Brown DDs are a good choice and I think they're around $225-250.



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Aaron
Black ’96 Z28 *sold*
SSM '02 Z28
Pro 5.0, FRA, MTI lid
¼- 13.21@108.2

get a lou's short stick and a set of 4.10's to start off with. I just installed my short stick last week on my hurst shifter and I love it. the throw is much shorter. I highly recommend spending the 50 dollars on it.

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93 T.A. m6
bolt-ons and 125 shot

Sounds like you've got a plan http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif
Personally I skipped the 85mm MAF and just went with ported ends. I've heard too many discrepancies about that mod.
Also a second vote here for the Kenny Brown SFCs. I would choose those over a tubular design -- just MHO though.

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2002 "35th Anniversary" Camaro Z28
Member Street Lethal F-Body Association of NEPA www.slfba.com (http://www.slfba.com)
GO LIONS!!

OK GUYS. Do I go with the package deal or not. Would it be better to avoid the 85mm or not? I suppose I should do some more shopping before i blow my money!

1. Lou Short stick
2. lid
3. exhuast
4. sfc's and stb
5. Y2K C5 rims!?!!??

I would go with the package. If you get the lid and Corsa(with the nice polished pro-series tips) separately then you're going to spend about the same amount, so it's almost like you're getting the MAF for free. If you gain a little power with it...great. If not, then throw the stock MAF back on.

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Aaron
Black ’96 Z28 *sold*
SSM '02 Z28
Pro 5.0, FRA, MTI lid
¼- 13.21@108.2

Yeah, you could always sell the SLP MAF if it doesn't perform.

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2002 "35th Anniversary" Camaro Z28
Member Street Lethal F-Body Association of NEPA www.slfba.com (http://www.slfba.com)
GO LIONS!!

With 2 grand to spend I would first upgrade the induction system (SLP lid $100 and K&N air filter $50). Also, I would perform all the free mods....there free $0. Then I would go to the exhaust (FLP headers $850, Random Tech. cats and cat-back exhaust $750, I think). I read in Chevy Hi-Performance where a company down in Flordia (Vincy Hi-Performance...check it out on the web) got about 50-75 horsepower just from the headers, cats, and cat-back. This would be my idea of some good performance up grades without messing with gears, torque converters, and the internal engine.


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1998 Z28. Artic White.

SS hood
Sport Appearance pkg.
Ported, Polished MAFH
Free ram air Mod.
Flowmaster Exhaust
Custom Stainless tips
T-tops
Fully loaded

First of all save your money and install it all yourself or find a friend(s) to help you that know how!
lid :$100
shifter: $170
SLP loudmouth: $350
Hooker long tubes and y-pipe(no cats): ~$700
Nitto drag radials: ~$300
subframe connectors: ~$300
port your own TB: ~ 80 bucks for dremel and proper bit/sand paper
This is exactly $2000 grand and alot of HP for that Z and you to take http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif
Good luck and have fun,
Rick

I know I can do most of the mods myself. I kinda wanted the exhaust welded on. Is this a good idea or should I do it in my driveway and clamp it. All my friends say I should have it welded. There isnt any way I can do the SFC's myself. I am going to have to have someone weld those in for me. When I said leave some room for istallation I wasnt talking about the lid or the MAF or anything like that. I can handle that stuff.
joN

Well first off what did your car come with and is this a street/strip setup or primarily street?

If you already have the upgraded dual/dual exhaust, you're really not going to get an improved performance by going to the Corsa or any other AM catback for that matter. So if you change the exhaust it's for sound and looks ... for sound just replace the muffler - you will want something like a Magnaflow - nice sound, good performance and inexpensive. Then pick youself up some nice tips for asthetics.

If you do decide to go with a full catback, keep in mind the tried and true - Borla, B&B. The latest hot thing, Corsa/GMMG, have not stood the test of time yet. The Corsa muffler's have been dropping like flies here after about a year and there are people complaining of rattling with the GMMG.

MAFs/MAF ends ... unless you have money to burn, they are a high risk propostion, especially on a '01/'02. They can be impressive when you first put them on, but as the PCM adjusts to them, you easily wind up with nothing or an actual power loss. I tried the SLP, Pace and ported ends. In every case I lost ET at the track or rwhp on the dyno.

Intake ... do at least a lid, anywhere from $85 to $150 depending upon your taste. As far as a K&N or a Holly filter - not really neccesary, unless you are going with !FRA or an induction system. If you are going with an induction system, look into the FIPK. It maintains the integrity of your cars cooling system and mates up well with the SS hood. Any other induction system - such as the FTRA or SLP - will cost more, cannabilzes your cooling system and exposes the car to potential hydrolock. Unless you're hardcore drag racing it's really not worth it.

A ported TB is a good mod, nothing really impressive. But the throttle feels more responsive and you get a little more top end if you do the bump stop mod ... do the whole thing yourself or pick one up for around $160 or less with a core swap.

Crank pully, again good safe proven mod, especially with an M6 and if you do just the crank and not the alternater. Check around, I think the price on an ASP pully is probably just under a $200. Install shouldn't be more than $150, if that.

Suspension ... there's really no bad choices out there. BMR is about the best bang for the buck for the bolt on stuff - PHR, STB and LCAs. If you get LCAs, make sure you get the poly/rubber. Personally though, unless you are hardcore drag racing, just weld a plate on your stock LCAs to box them - any welding shop could do it for $20 with scrap they have lying around. AS far as SFCs, if you're hard core racing, autox or drag, get a set of double diamonds. But, they will hang down and are noticable under the car. If you're primarly street, a set of BMRs will tuck up real nice and should more than meet your needs.

As far as headers and gears, save those for another round of modding. No matter how you cut it a set of headers will be between $1100 to $1600 installed. Unless you go real cheap and get a set of uncoated Hookers and I wouldn't recommend going uncoated headers in the Midwest. Gears same thing, by the time you get the gears, install kit, gear oil, speedometer adjustment and installation, your talking $700 to $800. You might be able to do one of these if you're real frugal on your other mods.

Good Luck

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