Alarm systems... List of demands

DrDUKE
07-08-2003, 08:44 PM
Hi,
Now that I am starting to put some nice stereo stuff and interior I am affriad that some people might wana get in it and do somthing stupid

I am looking for an alarm system, and like the features on different ones but cant find one to do it all.

Here is what i would like it to do

Alarm, with sensors door hatch shake glass etc

pager/remote so i know when its going off

remote door lock
remote hatch
remote windows
remote start

it would be ideal if they work with the alarm. Ie i can leave the windows down door unlocked but if the alarm is triped windows up doors locked or any possible combinations similar.

The closest thing I found was this

DEI hornet (http://www.drdetailshop.com/554t.htm) But I dont know anything about it or how it installs in my car. It seems really well priced here, but is that a quality issue or a good deal?

NineSevenWS6
07-08-2003, 09:19 PM
DEI is by far the best. You cant/wont go wrong with them.

As far as installing, I wouldnt reccomend doing this your self, especially as complex as you want it. The hardest part is finding a competitent installer. There arent many who care anymore. If you find one you will pay for his time. :)

BMC95TA
07-09-2003, 02:11 AM
I installed the hornet 554t in my car last month. It wasn't fun but wasn't that hard. My problem was that I didn't want to use the remote start so according to the tech support the guy I bought it from gave me I just had to not hookup the module.....however if you dont then you still have to hook up the ignition wires or the alarm brain won't reset, then my other problem was with wiring the microwave sensor to the external shock sensor. I still haven't figured out how thats supposed to work and haven't had a chance to try and fix it.

So if your up for it do it yourself and follow brent frankers install guide if not have it done for $200 and save yourself the time. I would do it myself but thats just me.

PS the hornet 554t is a nice alarm, and you can get it for like $160 on ebay

97BBlackZ
07-09-2003, 02:40 AM
Wow that is Phat i need to get one of those... but it cost 200 bucks to install..?

BMC95TA
07-09-2003, 02:46 AM
thats what a local autorized DEI dealer quoted my friend to install a dei alarm he got on ebay. Install would be free if you bought it from them but it also costs $599 for the 554t from them.

x7x7
07-09-2003, 03:03 AM
I will be installing the hornet 554T in my cousin's '89 vette, just waiting for it to get here. Should be here any day now. I'll let you know what I think of it.

DrDUKE
07-09-2003, 11:04 AM
Cool,
I am pretty good with electronics but Ive never done an alarm before. I think I will get this one and give it a go. The place I found selling it online has it on sale and includes custom instruction for your car ( most likly what color wire and where its located ) and phone technical support.

I hate ebay and it is always worth more to deal with a real store.

x7x7 - you should definately tell me how the install goes and what you think about it. I will try and wait for you before I make the move.

BMC95TA
07-09-2003, 12:51 PM
If either of you guys deceide to use the microwave sensor. Let me know how you wired it in. THanks!

x7x7
07-09-2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by BMC95TA
If either of you guys deceide to use the microwave sensor. Let me know how you wired it in. THanks!

You can hook up the proximity sensor to either the blue wire in the primary harness if you want it to trigger zone 4 or you can hook it up to the green wire going to the shock sensor if you want it to trigger zone 2 (cut the wire going to the shock sensor and connect it to the proximity sensor's outputs instead).

Looks like the alarm will most likely be here tomorrow but possibly friday.

x7x7
07-10-2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by BMC95TA
My problem was that I didn't want to use the remote start so according to the tech support the guy I bought it from gave me I just had to not hookup the module.....however if you dont then you still have to hook up the ignition wires or the alarm brain won't reset

Which harness do you mean? You have to connect the ignition wires from the remot start harness? Which wires need to be connected from which harness? I will also be installing this alarm without the remote start because the car isn't driven in the winter. I assumed that I would just not use the remote start harness at all.

Alarm got here today, I really like the pager remote. I probably won't have time to install it until tomorrow or saturday, I'll let you know what I think of the range, I've heard it's about 5 city blocks or so.

DrDUKE
07-10-2003, 06:54 PM
Sweet, Im interested to know .

take some picutres and notes if you can. :bow:

97BBlackZ
07-10-2003, 07:17 PM
If i get one of those where can i have it installed...? I would like to do it my self but im pretty sure i cant or would **** it up hehe...

NineSevenWS6
07-10-2003, 07:47 PM
Any shop should be able to do it. One thing I forgot is you have you to wire a trigger the BCM cause it shuts down after a while. If you dont do this, the car wont unlock, the hatch wont pop etc. I forgot exactly what has to be done, but Im sure I can come up with the details at work tomorrow. :)

Again, this isnt exaclty a job I would reccomend to a newbie . This is far from an easy task. Although, it is do-able. :) Just be sure to set aside A LOT of time, 6-8hrs +. :)

BMC95TA
07-10-2003, 09:37 PM
I don't know about 5 city blocks im not getting anything near that. I'm not using the remote start harness either (M6), and you still have to hook up to the ignition wires off the main brain harness (pinki wire i think) or the alarm doesnt reset itself. Then as far as the sock sensor and proximity sensor I'll have to let you guys know how it works out.

NineSevenWS6
07-10-2003, 11:35 PM
WTF does an alarm have to reset itself?

Most alarms will come with atleast 4 relays.

Youll need 12vC, Ignition, Sec Ignition, ACC, Starter even if youre not doing a remote start; for starter kill.

x7x7
07-11-2003, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by BMC95TA
I don't know about 5 city blocks im not getting anything near that. I'm not using the remote start harness either (M6), and you still have to hook up to the ignition wires off the main brain harness (pinki wire i think) or the alarm doesnt reset itself. Then as far as the sock sensor and proximity sensor I'll have to let you guys know how it works out.

I think you're mistaken. The only pink wire is on the relay pack. It goes to the car's ignition wire, it's connected to the yellow wire (Ignition input TO REMOTE START) in the remote start ribbon harness thru the ignition relay. So it looks to me like it's only needed when you will be using remote start. I will hopefully be doing the install tomorrow so I'll let you know what happens. I hope the range isn't less than 5 blocks.

x7x7
07-11-2003, 03:09 PM
Now that I have taken a closer look at things I see that you're half right. There is no switched ignition wire in the primary harness. That means the alarm gets it's switched input from the pink wire in the relay pack. But since this wire is normally connected to the yellow wire (when the relay's coil isn't energized) in the remote start ribbon cable all you have to do is cut off the ribbon cable and connect the yellow wire to the ignition wire if you don't want to use remote start. :)

x7x7
07-13-2003, 05:13 AM
Got the alarm installed on friday. Install went good, just like any other. I didn't use the remote start so it wasn't too bad.

So far kinda dissapointed with the range. Will do more testing this week but it looks like if I decide to get a 2-way pager I will go with a compustar 2WSSA for my car.