Speed Ink

I recenlty purchased a 94 Z28 and imediatly wanted to sup it up.

I really had no idea where to start since this is all new to me.

I heard about SPEED INC. thru a friend, RYAN MILLER. He had a

95 Z28 that was really fast, he was smokin Corvettes, WS6s, and

LS1 Z28s. I asked him where he takes his Z to get work done. He

said, talk to Larry at LS1 SPEED. I then emailed Larry and he

told me everything I needed to know. The best thing about SPEED

is that they have practically everypart for my Camaro in stock,

Their prices are always the cheapest, don't believe me see for

yourself, they beat any price. As for there work, they have great

prices on labor and Larry always tries to get me in as soon as

possible. If your cool with Larry or anyone at SPEED INC. then

they are cool right back. They treat me like a friend and most

importantly my Z28, like it's there own. No other performance

shop could ever match SPEED INC.

will ever even look at my car, SPEED INC. is the best

Sounds like a good place....:cool:

How much per hour, or do they have flat rates?

Originally posted by O1FASTWS6
speed inc is a great shop I dont think they need to have people promote there bussiness for them this board is intended to help people trying to find a quality shop to take there car so if you cant help us out dont post here. Ive been going to tom and larry for a few years now and never had a problem.

it seem this stick!#$% guy is always causing trouble. you must have a slow car if u spend all your time on a computer trying to rip on a the best speed shop around.

props speed inc :bow: :bow: Hey, obviously if you know how good of a shop they are you must live in this area. So if our cars are slow, we can meet up and set something up and you can put your money where your mouth is.
Also for the record I never had a problem with tom or larry, just the work that was done at their shop and I know that they(tom, larry) aren't directly responsible for what happened. Z-rated they charge by what type on install you're having done, not by the hour or anything.

Hmmm lets delete our post 01fastws6:rolleyes:

It always seems to me that this Stick shift person is only out to bash and bad mouth everybody else. I have seen you (stickshift98) around before and to let you know you are only making the problems on this board and every other board you go to, Which is why no one likes your smart ass comments. Plus your only 17 and you run your mouth like your king ****.
It doesnt give you the right to make unnecessary posts about anyone on this board. Stop all your:cry: and spend most of your time somewhere else. No one wants to hear you blabble off about your personal problems, if you want to do that, that's what Mommy and Daddy are for!! Have a nice day.

Ya, it seems that way lately, if they would just let things go instead of letting them consume them, especially on here. I am speed Inc is a good place, but everywhere you go, there will be problems once in awhile. Get over it! Have a good one

Originally posted by Blown 346
It always seems to me that this Stick shift person is only out to bash and bad mouth everybody else. I have seen you (stickshift98) around before and to let you know you are only making the problems on this board and every other board you go to, Which is why no one likes your smart ass comments. Plus your only 17 and you run your mouth like your king ****.
It doesnt give you the right to make unnecessary posts about anyone on this board. Stop all your:cry: and spend most of your time somewhere else. No one wants to hear you blabble off about your personal problems, if you want to do that, that's what Mommy and Daddy are for!! Have a nice day.

Hey blown346, do yourself a favor and take a closer look at my screen name. It's 93 not 98, you have us mixed up. As well you have half the info there wrong, sorry your feelings where hurt by him know why dont YOU go cry to your mommy. Also as for stik98 going around and making problems everywhere here I think you have it wrong buddy, there are a lot of people here that will vouch for him. Next time if you want to go insult somebodys reputation you're gonna need to try a little harder. Good day

Forgot to add guys, go do a search on the posts made by this O1fastws6 guy(it's the letter O not the number by the way), and you'll notice that EVERY one of his posts involves go to speed inc here's their number or here's their website.....Seems kinda funny to me

I think that the bashing of both Stik6shift93 and Stik6shift98 are completely unnecesary. Its true that Stik98 ran his mouth about a subject he felt very strongly about, but who does that not happen to. No biggie in my book. And Stik93, hes just expressing his opinions as well. I personally have no experience with Speed Inc. but if they treet me well if i go there, im gonna say that they do. If they treat me like garbage, im gonna say that also. Opinions are always welcome, just dont blow what is said out of proportion. :cool:

First off Stick6shift93 I wasnt referring directly to you, and as for your buddy 98 I wasnt trying to ruin his reputation. All that I was trying to say is we dont want to keep hearing about his problems with whatever shop he goes to. As you know Speed Inc is a well known shop and like said before, everyone has there opinion. There opinion shouldnt be constantly bad mouthing someone else's reputation either. If you have a problem with a shop or someone who did whatever to your car, talk about the problem and what you think was done wrong. it's a whole differnet story when you start to literally bash them for something that there is no proof off. I have had problems too, nothing that big but still a problem and they have bent over backwards to fix what was done wrong or not to my liking. All I am doing is voicing my opinion as well as everyone else on this board, but it shouldnt be takin out of context like i have seen before. So I don't think anyone should worry about this too much more.

Dude I'm sorry but when you get your car back from a heads/cam install and 60 miles later a bearing spins, somethings not right. There were no signs of overrevving ie nicked pistons.....as well three EXTREMELY prominate and reputable engine builders all looked at the motor and came to the same conclusion...something metalic got into one of the bearing. How???Maybe when somebody installed the oil pump, timing gear, and pulley with a screwdriver and gouged the heck out of them some metal shaving could have got into the motor. You or anybody else is more than welcome to come look at all the motor parts. Also not one other bearing was spun in the motor, infact all the other rod bearings were in "pristine condition" as an exact quote. But hey yeah, it was just a coincidence that a bearing spins after only 60 miles when the motor has been hacked. The problem was addressed with larry, I won't go into details but no resolution was met, none whatsoever. These aren't opinons these are hard raw facts, just put 2 and 2 together.

stik98 was also spraying that motor and things can happen. 98's were especially bad for spinning main bearings.

The motor was only sprayed 7 bottles on a 100 shot, go search around and you'll see that there are people that have being spraying 100 shots on their cars for years with no troubles. Also it was a rod bearing not a main that was spun.

Also he never sprayed it for the few miles he had it back with the heads and cam

stik6shift93 ... we put 2+2 along time ago. I suggest we all drop this topic now. Thank you for communicating in a more constructive fashion than your buddy, but still the whole story is not being told here. You have a right to post your side, and you have plenty, as have we. All the facts and sides have been posted. If you have some concerns email me privately.

The owner/admin of this board has already ruled it a dead topic. End of story.

Just to touch on the 'contamination theory'.

You yourself claim that all the bearings, but the one rod bearing that spun were 'pristine'.

Can you explain to me how a piece of metal that is big enough to spin a bearing (which is impossible anyway), got through the pickup screen, through the oil pump, through the oil filter, past the main bearings (without damaging them) to finally make it to one rod bearing and spin it? :confused:


Well, you can't, because it's impossible.


I think you, your buddy stikshift98, and your 'pro engine builders', should all pitch in and buy a few books and educate yourselves about the workings of internal combustion engines, because it's obvious to me that you all posess zero knowledge of the subject.

Have a nice day, and get a clue.

Hmmmm, let me touch on that one, you guys did install an oil pump did you not???? It was also gouged on install as well, so might it not be feasible that you got a metal shaving in the pump????Hmmm lets think about it
This is what happens when somethings goes wrong with a customer car I guess, sorry but a spun bearing 60 miles after a heads cam install seem a little to coincidental to me.
Know also explain to me the numerous other things you guys messed up on his car, ground effects, interious accesory outlets don't work, cranks gouged out to hell, as well as the crank timing gear, as well at the oil pump, rounded off head stud, didn't use proper torque specs on half the bolts, used electric as a wire loom, as well as about 300 other things i'm forgetting, but hey yeah it wasn't your guys fault you sure do quality work over there:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by INTMD8



I think you, your buddy stikshift98, and your 'pro engine builders', should all pitch in and buy a few books and educate yourselves about the workings of internal combustion engines, because it's obvious to me that you all posess zero knowledge of the subject.

Have a nice day, and get a clue.


I'll give you this advice again, because your last post further proves your ignorance. I'll say it one more time. No particles bigger than about 40 microns will make it through the filter. It's impossible for a piece of metal to flow past all of the bearings and then 'spin' one of them. I know I sound like a broken record, but maybe if I repeat myself enough, some of this information might make it through your thick skull.

The car was abused, nitrous, and hacked by the owner of the vehicle. I can't even believe you would try to blame the hacked wiring on us, and the ground effects were practically dragging on the ground when the car was dropped off at our shop.

This will be my last post. I get dumber every time I read something you wrote.

The front ground effect was cracked, however the side skirts were fine until you guys put the car on the lift. With it being lowered you guys broke the seals on both of the side skirts, the car was seen by stik98 with the gfx sitting on the lift. Kinda nice when they're imported from japan and cost 1500 dollars. His car was not "hacked" until it was recieved back from you guys, given the wiring on the nitrous and underglows wasn't the greatest, I would hardly call that getting "hacked". More like someone beating on the timing gear with a screwdriver, sound familiar? The car had 7 bottles sprayed through it on a 100 shot, I would hardly call that abused. Like I said before there are 100s if not thousands of people out there that have sprayed dozens and dozens of bottles on a 100 shots with no problems. Any competent person knows thats not abusing the car. Back to the wiring though, the car came in and the accesories worked. When it went out it didn't, that's your problem to take care, you guys need to stand behind your work rather than making accusations/excuses about everything. Back to my last post i'm still waiting to hear back about all the things you hacked on his car, all I see are lame irrelivant excuses coming from you. You say his car was hacked when it came in but it was barely even touched, you say his ground effects were broken hanging when he brought the car in, when just the front was cracked. Get you facts straight before you come on here and waste my time.
One last thing, intimid8 how old are you??? From your comments it seems like you're a 10 year old, going around personally insulting me. You need to grow up and be professional you give speed inc a bad name, I could go around telling people about how the tuning you did on my buddies car blows but do you see me doing that???case and point

P.S. I was ready to drop this subject after jon_we4 replied, he seemed like a professional guy, but you had to stick your 2 cents in. Anyway if you want to carry this on further pm me, or aim me. Rather than wasting my time on here as well as the readers time:)

I know all about Henry and his approach to getting work done at the 4-5 shops around Chicago.

I spun a bearing in my 98 Formula back in 2000. It was due to using nitrous and one of the bearing was pretty pounded.

Intmd8 is right about the filter and spinning one bearing.

If you guys are going to make accusations make ones that actually make sense.

I'm sorry to say that the 98's spun bearings for more often than folks realize, I think that the 99-02 cars faired much better.

Sorry you guys are bitter but trust me, I run www.ls1tech.com and I have been watching cars blow up for five years and nitrous is hard on the bearings.

John how much and how long were you spraying?

I only sprayed a few bottles through the car for a couple of months.

I'm really sorry to hear that you spun a bearing, when it happened to me it was right after I sprayed a 150 shot out of a toll plaza.

Originally posted by stik6shift93
One last thing, intimid8 how old are you??? From your comments it seems like you're a 10 year old, going around personally insulting me. You need to grow up and be professional you give speed inc a bad name, I could go around telling people about how the tuning you did on my buddies car blows but do you see me doing that???case and point

P.S. I was ready to drop this subject after jon_we4 replied, he seemed like a professional guy, but you had to stick your 2 cents in. Anyway if you want to carry this on further pm me, or aim me. Rather than wasting my time on here as well as the readers time:)

Stick6Shift93, How old are U? All u do is make accusations about a car that isn't even urs. Who is immature? I think I recall u threatening me on the chi town message board. I see u still can't let this subject go.

I think it is pretty disrespectful and disgraceful the way u talk about intimd8. I think it's funny to see u complaining about his work when pretty much everyone out there is content with his dyno-tuning. I have seen the results of his tunings, and they are by far some of the best performance tunes out there.

Intimd8 was the person who single handedly resolved all my problems that i previously he had, and he did so in a professional and friendly manner. I would highly recommend LS1 Speed Inc to anyone.

i'd just like to add that in this day and age, the medical field has come a long way with Psycho tropic drugs.

Zanax,Zoloft,Effexor,,,,these drugs affect mood,emotions,aggresions,impulses,irritibilities by regulating serotonin levels in the brain.

Perhaps the stckshft boys should consult there primary care physician for more info .



Yours truly,

Jeff

Originally posted by WheelmanZ28
Stick6Shift93, How old are U? All u do is make accusations about a car that isn't even urs. Who is immature? I think I recall u threatening me on the chi town message board. I see u still can't let this subject go.

I think it is pretty disrespectful and disgraceful the way u talk about intimd8. I think it's funny to see u complaining about his work when pretty much everyone out there is content with his dyno-tuning. I have seen the results of his tunings, and they are by far some of the best performance tunes out there.

Intimd8 was the person who single handedly resolved all my problems that i previously he had, and he did so in a professional and friendly manner. I would highly recommend LS1 Speed Inc to anyone. Lmao, you recall me threatening you after you told him you were gonna kick his ass, sorry if sticking up for a friend is "immature". I could go into so many details about half the crap you started with him but it's a waste of my time and i will address it personally with you. Also...not letting the subject go??when's the last time I have talked with you about it, as I recall it was several months ago.
You obviously haven't seen my buddy's car that dies out all the time, I have several other friends that have been tuned by him with no problems however, and I'll be the first to admit he's probably the best tuner in the area. I was simply using joe's car to make a point. It's also kinda funny how 2 weeks ago you were going around saying you wouldn't recommend speedinc to anyone yet now you do????Check your pm

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