Motor is in!

Well, in case any of you local F-body guys care.....

The motor is in! The Procharger F1 has maybe 1/16" clearance between the compressor housing and the drivers side frame rail. But it fits! The TH400 with CSI shield fits in the tranny tunnel with room to spare, no BFH (Big F***ing Hammer) work required. It's going to be a chore to get the air into the SC though. That, and fabbing up the fuel system are the main obstacles left. Along with figuring out where to mount the tranny cooler.

But there is light at the end of the tunnel. I just thought that enquiring minds might want to know.

Rich Krause

Rich,
That's great news:thumb:!!!!! Looks like the fun has just started though:p. Did you get the cage finished? Just curious as to how it looks, cause I know we were talking about that awhile back.

Anyway, glad to hear it's looking like a car again....one quick car that is!

Dave

I think I am going to have to buy a bike to try and keep up with you guys.


Sounds like a beast Rich. Have to let us know when the big track day arrives so I can go see this thing in action.

Originally posted by Prince
Rich,
That's great news:thumb:!!!!! Looks like the fun has just started though:p. Did you get the cage finished? Just curious as to how it looks, cause I know we were talking about that awhile back.

Anyway, glad to hear it's looking like a car again....one quick car that is!

Dave

Dave: the cage is a long tale, but it won't go in until fall. G-force just got too backed up. I think at NYI they won't care as long as I keep it in the 10's though.

Rich

Originally posted by rskrause
Dave: the cage is a long tale, but it won't go in until fall. G-force just got too backed up. I think at NYI they won't care as long as I keep it in the 10's though.

Rich

Great news Rich!!!! lol with " Keeping it in the 10's" Good luck, if you need any thing let us know. ( I now work P/T for a local Chev. dealer!)

Gary

Good to hear Rich, that car is going to be violent :) I look forward to seeing you and the car soon!

Did you get the PCM? When you get a chance, can you pull that program out of the PCM and sent it to me?

Thanks Rich!
Jason

in the 10's:eek: good luck to you rich sounds pretty damn awesome:bow:

Originally posted by Jason Short
Good to hear Rich, that car is going to be violent :) I look forward to seeing you and the car soon!

Did you get the PCM? When you get a chance, can you pull that program out of the PCM and sent it to me?

Thanks Rich!
Jason

Jason: got it, thanks! There is not electric power to the car yet, but I put a sticky note on the PCM reminding me to pull the program when I power it up.

I have this fantasy about a 3,500rpm launch against the brake with the N2O coming on at ~4,000rpm just as I clear the starting area :). Hopefully, the 27" QTP's will allow this to occur without a lot of tire smoke.

Rich Krause

:bow: Nice Rich.:D Hopefully you have better luck than I am.....Ive still got a bad leak....and I just found out its the intake.....:shame:

Looking forward to some dyno numbers and track times from that mouse motor of yours.;)

That thing is going to tear some major A$$ when it is done. I don't know how you can sleep at night waiting for that monster to be done :bow:

I agree it sounds like one hell of a beast. I cant wait to see this rolling monster at our track day when you get it done. A true form of modern muscle.

Congratulations,
-JOhn

Originally posted by 96z
:bow: Nice Rich.:D Hopefully you have better luck than I am.....Ive still got a bad leak....and I just found out its the intake.....:shame:

Looking forward to some dyno numbers and track times from that mouse motor of yours.;)

At least you don't have to pull the motor! Did you schedule dyno time yet? I am very curious how it's gonna do. Use a lot of orange RTV and let it sit at least 24h before startup.

I can hardly wait, it must be killing you too.

Rich Krause

Originally posted by rskrause
At least you don't have to pull the motor! Did you schedule dyno time yet? I am very curious how it's gonna do. Use a lot of orange RTV and let it sit at least 24h before startup.

I can hardly wait, it must be killing you too.

Rich Krause

Hey Rich what do you figure that beast :bow: will dyno at or is that gonna be a surprise. Ha hah haha


Thanks,
-JOhn

Sounds good Rich, since you are going to the 27s, do you still want to sell me your ET Streets? :)

Thanks, Jason

Originally posted by Jason Short
Sounds good Rich, since you are going to the 27s, do you still want to sell me your ET Streets? :)

Thanks, Jason

Yes, but I want to wait until the wheels are delivered and I am sure it's going to work out. IOW, I will keep the salad shooters/ET Streets in "reserve" until then.

Rich

Originally posted by rskrause
I think at NYI they won't care as long as I keep it in the 10's:shock:


I have the same problem:rolleyes::lol:...too bad it's 13's though:lol::).

Dave:cool:

Originally posted by rskrause
At least you don't have to pull the motor! Did you schedule dyno time yet? I am very curious how it's gonna do. Use a lot of orange RTV and let it sit at least 24h before startup.

I can hardly wait, it must be killing you too.

Rich Krause

Yeah I got a dyno time, June 12th at 9am. Yeah its killing me too.:cry: I just want to drive without starting smoke screens.:eek:

Believe me Im doing the orange RTV deal. Im going to put a REAL healthy amount on and go from there...

See ya at the starting line when were both said and done.:thumb: :bow:

Originally posted by 96z
Yeah I got a dyno time, June 12th at 9am. Yeah its killing me too.:cry: I just want to drive without starting smoke screens.:eek:

Believe me Im doing the orange RTV deal. Im going to put a REAL healthy amount on and go from there...

See ya at the starting line when were both said and done.:thumb: :bow:

'Zat a challenge, son ;)?

NA on a budget v. FI on the money train? Kind of unfair, but then again a youngster like you has the advantage of quick reflexes. Still, the N20 should make up for my 1.5sec RT :eek:

Rich Krause

Originally posted by 99LS1Power
I think I am going to have to buy a bike to try and keep up with you guys.:rolleyes:I think it's gonna take more than a bike...kinda like bringing a knife to a gunfight;). A turbo busa should do it though:thumb:.

Dave

Don't kill me that fast Dave lol. I was thinking something like a ZX-7R to start on....should go 10s if ridden right...so maybe 13s for me :D

I could be wrong on the times though, basing the times off the newer 600R they have have not seen the review of a 7 but I know the Kawasaki are heavier with a bit less power so tend to be slower over all I think?

:bow:

My weenie GTP cammed LT1 will be cruisin on the 23th. Your car is cooler than mine. Good luck Rich :cool:.

btw...keep us updated in the kill forum :).

Ryan

Originally posted by 96-speed
:bow:

My weenie GTP cammed LT1 will be cruisin on the 23th. Your car is cooler than mine. Good luck Rich :cool:.

btw...keep us updated in the kill forum :).

Ryan

I am aiming for the 23rd test and tune at NYI. But it's a 50/50 proposition at best. There's so much new stuff that could cause a delay. The fuel system is probably unnecessarily complex for one thing. Two external pumps, one activated by a WOT switch is the basic idea. But it involves getting some fittings welded on the stock rails, entirely new lines, etc. New tranny, brakes, low-z Acceleronics box, etc.

Gives me a headache just thinking about it. What's amazing is how the project grew to be such a monster. As it was, I ended up pulling back from a couple of things before it got completely out of hand.

Looking forward to seeing you all soon, with or without car. I will be at NYI on the 23rd no matter what. My MOMS Mustang racing friends will be there, so I am gonna hang out even if I am not ready to run. We will be in the paved pit area. I will bring cigars if anyone wants to smoke one with me. IOW, I will be smoking something, either tires, a cigar, or both!

Rich Krause

Originally posted by rskrause
'Zat a challenge, son ;)?

NA on a budget v. FI on the money train? Kind of unfair, but then again a youngster like you has the advantage of quick reflexes. Still, the N20 should make up for my 1.5sec RT :eek:

Rich Krause

Maybe....err....wait I came to my senses...no it wasnt.:D:D

Rich come on now...keep it in the 9's will ya?
:thumb:

Mabye my hooptie will be at the track by September for some 132+mph traps NA, mid 10s.

Oh, I 'gots' some nitrous now too :)

Jason

NITROUS huuuuuh. I like nitrous he he he


So many fast cars I jus wanna ride:)

see ya all,
-JOhn

Alittle juice never hurt anyone if used wisely. I'm counting the days till I get those Hooker LT's in!!!!:D :D What do you guys think about picking up an OBD1 for my car?!?! Will save me a few bucks cause I wont have to buy the rear sims. Just wondering. see-ya,
-Paul

Well, I'll share the good news with my FLFbuds (already told the Jpimp on IM) :).

Cam is in the block, intake and fuel rails back on, and the timing chain is bolted on. Rockers barely cleared the huge retainers. I had to run a +.05 lock to get the install height high enough with my stock valves + 977s (running them right at 1.855"), so that didn't help clearance :). Surprisingly, my 4770 locators needed ZERO grinding to fit the stock seats - BONUS! :)

Should get her fired up tomorrow!

Here are some pics from today:

Hotcam valve springs vs. comp 977 springs installed (http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/345000-345999/345879_10_full.jpg)

Interior scent freshener (http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/345000-345999/345879_11_full.jpg)

Everything is organized very carefully (http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/345000-345999/345879_12_full.jpg)

This is a GTP6/stock heads experiment (235/242 .568/.592 - hence, the beefy hardware). Too big? Bad for a daily driver? Bad pick with stock heads? We'll see :D.

Thanks for reading :cool:.
Ryan

Ryan: you sure do keep your "shop" well organized ;).

That is a big cam. I wonder how it's gonna work. Seems to me the relatively small intake ports on the stock heads will hamper high rpms, where this cam wants to live. Also, I don't know the detailed specs on your cam, but I assume it's got a fair amount of overlap. To really make best of it you probably need a higher than stock CR. Still, I'd guess you will see gains over a HOT cam.

Do you plan on dynoing it? Or at least post some before and after trap speeds. I'm curious.

Rich Krause

Air freshener...:lol: Ryan.

Rich: I plan on dynoing it as soon as I am more comfortable tuning it. As of right now I'm running stock tuning, minus some small LT1edit changes (fans, cags, etc).I'm getting TONs of knock retard, bogging under 2500rpms, and a bit of cam surge. Obviously, it needs tuning bad.

I will definitely have some traps speeds to share. Before the cam I was trapping 107.5mph with 4* knock retard/85* ambien tempt/Houston Raceway. Here's a pre-cam mod list - scroll down a little (http://www.96-speed.cz28.com/about.html)

fwiw, I haven't noticed any increase in power just yet (kept it below 4k so far).

The fuel rails really gave the car a nice smell! :D

I will keep you guys updated! I'd love to move up there, but winter racing at HRP is hard to give up :).


Ryan

Looking good Ryan! Keep us posted.....sounds like alot of big things going down this year for everyone :)

Jason

Here's a couple more pics for fun :)

Hotcam spring vs. 977 (http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/345000-345999/345879_13_full.jpg)

FLFB car? (http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/345000-345999/345879_8_full.jpg)

Ryan