Does your LS1 burn oil?

if so how much?

about a quart in between oil changes.29000 miles

yeah, but the trans doesn't have anything to do with it. Pretty much all modern cars burn around a quart between oil changes. I know, I couldn't believe it myself. I was pissed when GM wouldn't do anything about my car when it was using oil like that. They even had me stop in every 500 miles for them to check the oil consumption for a 3000 mile duration. They said it was normal. I still didn't believe them. I did more research and found out it's common and acceptable... And like Is aid, it's not limited to LS! Camaros..it's just about all the newer vehicles...

Originally posted by Timberwolf
yeah, but the trans doesn't have anything to do with it. Pretty much all modern cars burn around a quart between oil changes. I know, I couldn't believe it myself. I was pissed when GM wouldn't do anything about my car when it was using oil like that. They even had me stop in every 500 miles for them to check the oil consumption for a 3000 mile duration. They said it was normal. I still didn't believe them. I did more research and found out it's common and acceptable... And like Is aid, it's not limited to LS! Camaros..it's just about all the newer vehicles...

I have heard that the trans does matter. Manual trans are consistently ran at higher RPMs which is why they burn more oil because the higher RPMs. I think it wears the rings faster....:confused:

Originally posted by TransAmLS1
I have heard that the trans does matter. Manual trans are consistently ran at higher RPMs which is why they burn more oil because the higher RPMs. I think it wears the rings faster....:confused:

So its technically the RPMs causing more oil burning rather than the trans. One could theorize that two cars with A4 trans and otherwise being identical other than 2.73 gears in one and 3.42 gears in the other, would show a notable difference in oil burning. In which case the trans becomes unimportant. I would also question the validity of the m6 = higher rpm statement since the manual trans has the extra low second overdrive that effectively lowers the operational RPM of the engine...

Bought my '99 Z28 a month ago. I put over 1k mi so far and the oil level is still right on full :D. 50k mi on the car too. Maybe not enough to say for sure, but looking good so far.

Originally posted by Timberwolf
So its technically the RPMs causing more oil burning rather than the trans. One could theorize that two cars with A4 trans and otherwise being identical other than 2.73 gears in one and 3.42 gears in the other, would show a notable difference in oil burning. In which case the trans becomes unimportant. I would also question the validity of the m6 = higher rpm statement since the manual trans has the extra low second overdrive that effectively lowers the operational RPM of the engine...

Yeah, I guess you could say that. But generally people say if you go to buy a used LS1 if it is an M6 it will have a better chance of burning oil than an A4. But yeah, if someone would manually shift an A4 and shift at about 3k(normal driving) like most M6 drivers it would be the same I would think.

I wonder if they burn more if it is ran at higher RPMs, or the higher RPMs cause wear which leads to the consumption?!?!?!
Did that make sense?:confused: Say between 1 oil change you shift at 3k or more pretty consitently and it uses oil, but the next change you keep the RPMs down as much as possible, would it still burn oil? Or do the higher RPMs lead to ring failure? If so, it would still burn oil when driven easy.....

I wish someone with more knowledge on this subject would shed some light on it.:D

I did an oil change about 2000 miles ago and the oil level has not dropped. I am a conservative driver though. The RPM's often don't go above 3500, but every now and then I give it some gas:D I filled my car with 6 quarts of Mobil 1, the lever is right at the full line.

My 01 Trans Am burns about 1qt. of oil between every oil change (3,000 miles) if driven in the city, and a quart and a half if driven on a long road trip. My low oil usually comes on at around 2800 miles. Not sure if its 'normal' for most new cars, my roomates 2002 Honda Accord V6 doesnt use a drop. I mentioned it at the dealer and they say its normal usage for the engine. As long as it doesnt start burning it at a rate that my 85 Chevy Impala 305 did, I could care less.

Yes. Pretty much the same than my old LT1 did.

I did an oil chance almost exactly 3K miles ago and the level is now almost at the "ADD" mark.

Time for fresh Mobil 1 again. ;)

TS

I have an '02, and I don't have an oil consumption problem. I have the LS6 intake, and believe I have the LS6 block. I think I remember hearing that the LS6 block has a little better oil distribution.

There was a recall on one of those years on the LS1 i think it was 00' or 01'. Someone i know had the problem of burning about 3 quarts of oil between oil changes. It turned out it was a problem recognized by GM as engine rings. They did not put out an actual recall, but they are willing to fix it if you show a GM dealer over the period of about a couple months, they will either:

1) fix the problem (they said it takes 23 labor hours, so this is not likely)

2) replace the LS1 with a new one

I'm not real sure of the details, but if your LS1 burns a lot of oil and your car almost bone stack (just a few bolt-ons) you should definatly look into it.

my ls1 loves to eat oil

laff. Oil consumption? My 00' SS? Naw... YEAH RIGHT!

My first oil change after I bought the car, I put 6 qz. of Royal Purple oil in her..About 1500 miles later, my 'low oil' light when on. I was like, WTF!:mad:

So I put a bottle of mobil 1 in her to hold her over.

I, luckily, have a friend in my car team who is ASI certified and working for GM/Pontiac. He looked up some of the possible problems for the oil consumption and it turns out that there was a general problem with ls1's, SPECIFICALLY m6, that they were GM was willing to fix.

I forgot what the problem was, but I could ask my friend. I have the GMPP warranty with a $200 deductable; my friend told me that GM wouldn't charge me the deductable because it was a problem they had.

By the way, YES GM STATED IT WAS MORE COMMON IN M6 CARS! THIS IS FROM GM! THE MAKER!

It was nifty, he would type a phrase or problem term in a GM computer and it would list problems it had known of. "Oil Consumption" was in bold.

Originally posted by tainted


By the way, YES GM STATED IT WAS MORE COMMON IN M6 CARS! THIS IS FROM GM! THE MAKER!



So I was right. The answers in the poll kind of show it too.:D

http://www.pistonslap.com/

http://www.pistonslap.com/tsb/010601011.pdf

what tainted and TransAMLS1 said, thats what i was talking about above.

Low tension piston rings. Increase fuel economy but also increase oil consumption. Some engines that burn less probably have a closer piston to cylinder wall clearance from the factory.

Originally posted by kjlvilla
Low tension piston rings. Increase fuel economy but also increase oil consumption. Some engines that burn less probably have a closer piston to cylinder wall clearance from the factory.
agreed. obviously a car with closer piston to wall clearence will burn more oil. not every motor is the same even if it comes from the same factory. and not all M6 guys run higher rpm. heck my 5 speed rarely sees 2300 unless im havin fun;)

No oil burning so far. The oil level was at the top of cross hatched area before the last change.I have put about 600mi on the recently changed oil and(just looked) is still at the the top of the crosshatched area. I'll be keeping an eye on it though for GP and curiousity.
But after reading some of these posts and visiting the site DomesticViolence provided.I cant help but wounder if the piston slap is a direct influence on the consumption.
I dont have piston slap,havent burnt oil hmm.I must say I have seen some threads on the piston slap and it normalcy.But after hearing that sound bite of what it sounds like gezz the ones who have this"How can you stand it?"I question normal.:rolleyes: and the pics of the cylin. walls :cry:
I wonder if the votes for Yes it burns oil are experiencing piston slap.If the ones who answered Yes maybe share if you DO or NOT have piston slap w/oil comsumption.

I have both the piston slap and oil consumption. The oil consumption issue was a bit more important to me, but it isnt something I worry about. If the light comes on (usually around 2800-3100 miles) I just get the oil changed. If it gets drastically worse, I will of course take action. As for the piston slap, like I said earlier...doesnt bother me at all, every GM car Ive owned has had some kind of of slap or knock, such as my 90 Cadillac Coupe De Ville w/ rod knock. When the cars were brand new, owners went histarical and demanded that GM replace their engines. I drove mine til 212,000 miles without a single problem. And heck, GM isnt the only one, Ford owners are having 'issues' with piston slap/knock AND oil consumption with their bread and butter 4.6 V-8 (especially with the F-150 Lightning) However, some situations are a little different.. I agree that certain owners have a legit argument... if the piston slap is gradually worsening and/or is unusually loud and/or does not go away when the engine warms up.

ttt

Yes, it burns oil - about a 1/4 to a 1/2 quart every 2200 - 2500 miles.

I have a 2800 stall, so my car is probably more akin to a M6 than perhaps other A4's. :D


Never had the piston slap issue (that I know of :alert: ) - but, I thought that applied to the newer ( ' 01 & ' 02 ) engines.


:confused:


Later !


Britt

hmmm.. this is all so odd.. mine doesnt burn anything..

I just ran about 7500 miles from oil change to oil change too.. with many dyno runs and a few trips to the track in there...

nothing out of the ordinary there