95 Mystic TA 04-03-2003, 11:19 PM Tonight was the first night the track was open and I got my Nitto 555R's yesterday so I went to the local 1/8. I could only pull a 2.1 60' with the tire pressure ranging from 26psi to 20 ( I have no experience with drag radials and very little with drag racing) At the end of the night I was able to pull a 2.0 but that still wasn't what I was hoping for. Was I hoping for to much? I did farely good burnouts and have stock suspension. What kind of times are you guys with A4, stock stall and Nittos turning? Again I have never ran at the track much until tonight and I know practive is the key. Thanks
TsRfBoDy 04-03-2003, 11:21 PM I don't know about anyone else bu tI pulled a 2.04 on a snow tire a few weeks ago. I think u just need to go a little harder off the line, seems odd that u went 2.1 with a nitto
95 Mystic TA 04-03-2003, 11:39 PM Thanks for the reply. I wasn't really leaving off the line hard at all. I didn't really get enough time and enough runs in to experiment much but I will next Thursday. And the guy next to me pulled a 2.0 with street tires so that kinda made me wonder about my 60's.
Derrick Redd 04-04-2003, 06:02 AM I pulled a best of a 1.70 60ft NA with Nitto DR's. I did have numerous mods though. ;) What worked best for me was 18 psi and a 5 second burnout after the tires started to smoke. :)
COMNBYU 04-04-2003, 11:12 AM im basically stock for the most part except for the N2O. with the stock 2.73s, stock stall, and leaving off idle, i cut pretty consistent 2.0s with my Nittos NA. on the spray, i've gotten a best of 1.7 with the same launching technique.
NA, i usually leave the psi at around 25-27, which is what i drive on the street with. i just do a couple of dry hops and im set, dont even do a burnout. on the spray, i lower the psi the around 12 and do about a 7-8 second burnout.
with a mostly stock set up 2.0s are pretty much the norm. doesnt matter if you have street tires, DRs, or slicks, if you hook you hook. for EX- i was cutting 2.0s on street tires when i was completely stock. i got my DRs and removed my FR sway bar and HOPED i might get a 1.99 (mostly because of the sway bar), but when i was still cutting 2.0s, i wasnt suprised. SO, if you were hooking good on street tires, and you just switch to DRs without doing any mods, you're not going to get any better.
jon
guywidiroc 04-04-2003, 11:44 AM You should easily pull 1.9s and a few 1.8s. Make sure you heat them up, I hear to the point when smoke just starts to roll. Trial and error i suppose...so go try it again.
94/Formula/DW 04-04-2003, 12:38 PM 1.7-1.9 60FT is what you can have if you do it right.
Lower pressure to 15-18psi heat them for 5-7seconds and
power brake it as high as you can get the car or 3200rpm stick.
Just my o2
COMNBYU 04-04-2003, 04:36 PM WHOOA!! i dont know what kind of "stock" cars you're talking about, but i mean stock. im sorry, but i'd have to see someone cut a low 1.9 or better with a stock A4 car to believe it...
and 1.7!!! on a stock A4??? jeeez, come on now..
jon
GJE94Z28 04-04-2003, 09:22 PM You really have to heat those Nitto's, get the smoke rolling off those bad boy'z.
AutoRoc 04-05-2003, 12:18 AM 1.80 was my best ever
1.85 was very normal
This was in a mid 14 second IROC-Z with a 350 TPI engine and 3.73's on stock suspension.
The Nitto Drags were the 275/40/17 versions @ 20 PSI with a 5-8 second burnout in second gear. THEY HAVE TO BE HOT. HOT
Tomorrow I'll see if my new 315/35/17's will hook even better with the Nitrous engaged:D
95 Mystic TA 04-05-2003, 03:16 AM Thanks everyone. My previous 60's were all in the 2.2-2.3 range but I only ran it a few times since I didn't want to wear my tires to much and the cars wasn't paid for. I did a better burnout on the 8.8 run but have yet to see smoke. The car seemed like it didn't want to spin any more so I didn't force it. But a little smoke would have been nice.:)
guywidiroc 04-05-2003, 07:24 PM For the one who said he wants to see a 1.9 on a stock A4, look at my sig. I have pulled a 1.9x consistently on a stock A4 with all season RSAs. With nittos, if you cant pull atleast a low 1.9, you suck. I know of many people cutting 1.8s on nittos, and it isnt that hard.
big dave 04-06-2003, 10:37 AM I've pulled a couple 1.66s on 245/50/16 nittos. Now the question is stock suspension right?
Way too many variables to compare...
For every 1.6-17 sixty foot time on drag radials there are probably 50 guys who are cutting 2.1's...
Track prep has a whole lot to do with the sixty foot time and many tracks do a crappy job on street nights, plus many of the drivers don't know enough to clean the rocks out of their tires prior to making a pass, or turn their air conditioning off to keep drips off the starting line. It takes some experience and common sense to know how to line up at the launch to minimize the risk of smoking the tires at the launch.
I got away from drag radials after 1 1/2 seasons because I could not launch consistently enough to dial accurately for bracket racing. Sure I cut some high 1.7's and low 1.8's, but then I would cut a high 1.9 and lose a round.
I found about 18 pounds was the best ait pressure on a stock suspension car, a "count to 5" burnout worked best for me, and then making sure I didn't line up in any shiny spots on the launch pad...
94/Formula/DW 04-07-2003, 03:41 PM Best I ever had on stock suspension is 1.96 "Nitto's"and that was before I put my Cam and TC in.
I can not wait to see the new 60ft's
Track prep has alot to do with it.
Just my o2:eek:
Tom Richdale 04-07-2003, 04:37 PM Just for comparison my stock 93 3.4/A4 will 60 2.12-2.19 consistenly all day anywhere on 275/50 15 nittos. If you're only getting 2.0's in an LS1/LT1 car, someting is very wrong.
COMNBYU 04-07-2003, 06:22 PM EVERYONE ive seen so far that has said they've cut 1.9 or better has had 3.23 or lower gears in their car. ok, now lets see it with a 2.73.
like is said, i'd have to see it to believe it.
i've got a 2.73'd A4 car. i was cutting 2.0s on radials and guess what, im cutting the same thing on DR's. nothings wrong with my car, it's just hooking thats all. i could put slicks on and it's still gonna cut a 2.0, get my point.
im not saying i couldnt see someone getting a 1.9x with a 2.73'd STOCK A4 car. im saying that a 1.9 or better i'd have to see to buy that.
jon
robvas 04-08-2003, 11:18 AM Another guy in the Michigan forum pulled a 1.88 stock 2.73s in a 2001 LS1 Camaro....
I've got a 2.73 car with Nittos and stock suspension. I'll let you know what 60 foot times I can pull.
Z97LT1 04-08-2003, 11:49 AM Buddy of mine has the following mods: '93 Z28...vigi 2800, 3.73's, Longtubes, sfc's, BMR LCA's and relo's, and Eibach Pro-Kit (stiff) springs. NX 150 wet shot. Removed front sway bar.
His best short on 275/40/17 Nittos is a 1.63 on the bottle. 1.73 on motor.
Thats about the best I've seen on 17 inch nittos.
guywidiroc 04-08-2003, 12:48 PM A 1.88 60 ft stock!!:eek: Now I feel like a real amateur with my 1.98. What tires was he on? Just curious if I can do any better before I ditch the RSAs.
robvas 04-08-2003, 02:10 PM He was on Nitto's I think - Look up Detroit_Area_00SS's sig
Originally posted by guywidiroc
A 1.88 60 ft stock!!:eek: Now I feel like a real amateur with my 1.98. What tires was he on? Just curious if I can do any better before I ditch the RSAs.
guywidiroc 04-09-2003, 03:06 PM OK, i feel better knowing he was on nittos. Dont hear of anything much better than a 1.98 outta these snow tires. Im gonna try one last time at milan next saturday before I switch meats.
94NDTA 04-12-2003, 09:55 PM I see from your site you have 17's.Do you still have your 16's if you ever had any? You might want to try swapping those back on there and see how you do, if you gain any more. The tires may not be as sticky, but there is more side wall on the 16's.
robvas 04-13-2003, 09:00 PM 2.73 auto LS1....took the front seat out, SLP lid, Loudmouth, Nitto DR's....
Couldn't break the nittos loose on the launch. 2.0's ALL DAY
:mad:
:D
guywidiroc 04-14-2003, 11:05 AM Musta done good in the brackets with consistency if you couldnt even break em lose....right??? I would think anyway.
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