IRS in the new Camaro
08-14-2008, 11:34 PM
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IRS in the new Camaro
Anyone know much about it? Is it similar to the IRS in the '04-'06 GTO or the '03 Cobras?
It seems like the GTOs had a real tough time launching at the track once they were modded with DRs. Wheelhop was a real issue and I heard a lot of stories about broken half-shafts. I'm just hoping the Camaro has a stronger IRS and doesn't have the wheel hop problems the GTOs had.
It seems like the GTOs had a real tough time launching at the track once they were modded with DRs. Wheelhop was a real issue and I heard a lot of stories about broken half-shafts. I'm just hoping the Camaro has a stronger IRS and doesn't have the wheel hop problems the GTOs had.
08-15-2008, 07:26 AM
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Wheelhop was brought up very point-blank in the 2nd focus group (because many have driven or own GTOs) and here is what Al Oppenheiser said.
We'll see, anyway. It is a newer design but still based on the old one, of course. I am wondering what the breaking point would be.
What's wheel hop? This is 2010.
08-15-2008, 09:40 AM
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check out the very end of the article posted here:
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https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...29#post5534629
08-15-2008, 10:17 AM
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check out the very end of the article posted here:
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08-15-2008, 04:57 PM
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check out the very end of the article posted here:
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https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...29#post5534629
Good info there. I noticed he mentioned the Vette - I haven't seen many problems with the IRS in the Vettes. Seems they launch very well at the track. Sounds like GM did their research with the new Camaro.
08-15-2008, 05:00 PM
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Wheelhop was brought up very point-blank in the 2nd focus group (because many have driven or own GTOs) and here is what Al Oppenheiser said.
We'll see, anyway. It is a newer design but still based on the old one, of course. I am wondering what the breaking point would be.
We'll see, anyway. It is a newer design but still based on the old one, of course. I am wondering what the breaking point would be.
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08-18-2008, 11:22 AM
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Camaro's IRS is much different then the trailing arm set up on the GTO, and much stronger then what was found on the last gen CTS/CTS-V.
This was designed and built Holden Tough. I dont think we will have a lot of problems. Vette's IRS is different due to the fact that it has a solid leaf spring that ties the left and right together. Camaro has a coil over shock design as well as unequal diamter shafts that should calm that down.
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This was designed and built Holden Tough. I dont think we will have a lot of problems. Vette's IRS is different due to the fact that it has a solid leaf spring that ties the left and right together. Camaro has a coil over shock design as well as unequal diamter shafts that should calm that down.
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08-19-2008, 02:04 AM
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Not much to add other than the recent release of dealer info for the Camaro in the ride and handling page they made sure to mention that the IRS is designed handle the power of the vehicle. Like they are talking directly to the 4th gen owners with a critical eye on the stock 10 bolt.
I have a feeling that GM has put a lot more work into the IRS engineering and working with Holden on the Camaro will do nothing but help. We're lucky that they have the Vette, CTS and Holdens/G8 for help and history. The bar has been raised and with 550hp CTS V's and 620 hp ZR1's I think they can figure out how to work a 422hp Camaro SS.
I have a feeling that GM has put a lot more work into the IRS engineering and working with Holden on the Camaro will do nothing but help. We're lucky that they have the Vette, CTS and Holdens/G8 for help and history. The bar has been raised and with 550hp CTS V's and 620 hp ZR1's I think they can figure out how to work a 422hp Camaro SS.
08-19-2008, 04:43 AM
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Not much to add other than the recent release of dealer info for the Camaro in the ride and handling page they made sure to mention that the IRS is designed handle the power of the vehicle. Like they are talking directly to the 4th gen owners with a critical eye on the stock 10 bolt.
I have a feeling that GM has put a lot more work into the IRS engineering and working with Holden on the Camaro will do nothing but help. We're lucky that they have the Vette, CTS and Holdens/G8 for help and history. The bar has been raised and with 550hp CTS V's and 620 hp ZR1's I think they can figure out how to work a 422hp Camaro SS.
I have a feeling that GM has put a lot more work into the IRS engineering and working with Holden on the Camaro will do nothing but help. We're lucky that they have the Vette, CTS and Holdens/G8 for help and history. The bar has been raised and with 550hp CTS V's and 620 hp ZR1's I think they can figure out how to work a 422hp Camaro SS.
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08-26-2008, 09:02 AM
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It is concerning that if you hang out on the C6 boards breaking the rear is fairly common. But wheel hop seems to be a big factor. No wheel hop, no breakage. Wheel hop, you might get lucky, you might not.
I am hoping that you can slam a set of drag radials on a new Camaro with bolt ons and have fun without the worry of breakage...... We'll see!
I am hoping that you can slam a set of drag radials on a new Camaro with bolt ons and have fun without the worry of breakage...... We'll see!
08-26-2008, 03:12 PM
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Everything I've seen so far is G8's hop. They hop on stock rubber.
Even Ma Mopars new pony cars hop with IRS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYAfIvstphM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-EmsWiRkY
I hope there is an easy fix, my buddy has me starting to slide to the Shelby GT500 side..... His arguments are solid, close to the same weight, close to the same fuel mileage and the prices on used GT500's will be close to new Camaros next year. With the GT500 you get a live rear axle, hand assembled motor and a supercharger....
I REALLY hope the Camaro lives up to the hype!!! I want to buy an SS six speed with limited options...add headers, CAI, tune and drag radials and have some fun! But I will not buy another car that needs $3500 worth of rear end work to hold up.
Even Ma Mopars new pony cars hop with IRS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYAfIvstphM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-EmsWiRkY
I hope there is an easy fix, my buddy has me starting to slide to the Shelby GT500 side..... His arguments are solid, close to the same weight, close to the same fuel mileage and the prices on used GT500's will be close to new Camaros next year. With the GT500 you get a live rear axle, hand assembled motor and a supercharger....
I REALLY hope the Camaro lives up to the hype!!! I want to buy an SS six speed with limited options...add headers, CAI, tune and drag radials and have some fun! But I will not buy another car that needs $3500 worth of rear end work to hold up.