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Old 09-19-2008, 11:42 PM
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Zero to 60 in......

4.6 seconds. thats official.



a teaser from the CZ28 Summit provided by Al Oppenheiser.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:57 PM
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In the auto right?
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Old 09-20-2008, 01:00 AM
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He didnt say, but he said that they hit it this morning, the 19th, around 7am at Milford. Would have been a good question to ask him though when we were all sitting around.
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Anything else???????
Cara and I could not attend
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Old 09-20-2008, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisL
4.6 seconds. thats official.



a teaser from the CZ28 Summit provided by Al Oppenheiser.
Sounds great. How about the 1/4??
We are never happy...
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Originally Posted by ChrisL
4.6 seconds. thats official.



a teaser from the CZ28 Summit provided by Al Oppenheiser.
That's for the automatic V8, the manual does 0 - 60 in 4.9.

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That's for the automatic V8, the manual does 0 - 60 in 4.9.
4.9 depends whos behind the wheel
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4.9 depends whos behind the wheel
Yep, so it could actually be slower...
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That's for the automatic V8, the manual does 0 - 60 in 4.9.
The auto is that much quicker? Why? How?
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:35 AM
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I don't like the idea of a significantly faster auto. Enthusiasts that prefer the manual transmission like the idea that they are responsible for how fast the car accelerates. If their best can be beaten by your average driver in an automatic, that would really turn them away from the stick. And in some people's cases, a stick is the only thing they want to drive.
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Originally Posted by 5thgen69camaro
The auto is that much quicker? Why? How?
--- Assuming good health --- when you are 19 years old your physiological
reaction time is about 200-400milliseconds (0.400 seconds). This time increases throughout your life so at about age 60 your time ends up around 800mS.

The engine computer talks to the power train computer (and other on board computers), continuously sharing information. Calculations and decisions are made in nanoseconds.

For discussion, let's assume a 25Mhz processor clock speed. This translates into a calculation occurring once every 40 nanoseconds (0.000000040 seconds). The processor can make 10,000,000 calculations during the 400mS reaction time for a 19 year old! You can't think and react faster than sand! (a.k.a. silicon)

While the processor(s) are constantly optimizing performance, your 0-60 times are highly influenced by fuel combustion, transmission clutch slippage and road traction.

I would suggest that a truly level playing field is man against man both driving manual transmission setups, removing a bit of the technology and evaluating skill.
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Originally Posted by GMPG7783
You can't think and react faster than sand! (a.k.a. silicon)
Awesome reply!! But I still love banging gears and laying nice twin stripes with shift break in the middle of them, even if it means my ultimate time is slower than an automatic!! Unless your racing for cash....ita all about the drive for me!!
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Hrmm...

As I'm always looking for comparisons....

4.6-4.9 second range in the 0-60 (notables at bottom)....

2007 Aston Martin Vanquish S, $255,000 - 4.6
2007 Audi RS4, $66,000 - 4.6
2007 Cadillac CTS-V, $51,395 - 4.6
2007 Cadillac XLR-V, $98,300 - 4.6
2009 Ferrari Dino, $140,000 - 4.6
2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Convertible, $45,755 - 4.6
2007 Lotus Elise, $43,990 - 4.6
2007 Mercedes CL600, $144,975 - 4.6
2008 Mercedes CL63 AMG, $130,000 - 4.6
2007 Pontiac GTO, $33,000 - 4.6
2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S, $87,100 - 4.6
2007 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe (Manual), $165,750 - 4.7
2007 Bentley Continental GT, $155,990 - 4.7
2007 BMW Alpina B7, $115,695 - 4.7
2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet, $98,600 - 4.7
2007 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet, $92,800 - 4.7
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage, $113,200 - 4.8
2008 Audi RS4 Cabriolet, $81,900 - 4.8
2007 Bentley Continental GTC, $200,000 - 4.8
2008 BMW 135i, $32,000 - 4.8
2007 Masarati Coupe, $92,227 - 4.8
2007 Masarati GranSport Coupe, $103,522 - 4.8
2007 Mercedes ML63 AMG, $86,275 - 4.8
2007 Porsche 911 Carrera, $72,400 - 4.8
2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4, $77,100 - 4.8
2007 Porsche 911 Targa 4S, $96,695 - 4.8
2007 Subaru Impreza WRX Sti, $33,495 - 4.8
2007 Subaru Impreza WRX Sti Limited, $34,120 - 4.8
2009 Volkswagen Passat Coupe R36, $40,000 - 4.8
2007 Aston Martin DB9 Volante, $179,250 - 4.9
2008 Aston Martin Rapide, $200,000 - 4.9
2008 Aston Martin V8 Vantage-Roadster, $124,600 - 4.9
2007 Audi A8 L W12 Quattro, $119,350 - 4.9
2007 Audi S8, $92,000 - 4.9
2009 Audi TT-RS, $60,000 - 4.9
2007 Bentley Continental Flying Spur, $164,990 - 4.9
2009 BMW 135i Convertible, $35,000 - 4.9
2007 BMW 335i Coupe, $40,600 - 4.9
2010 BMW Z2 M Roadster, $39,000 - 4.9
2009 BMW Z6 4.4, $75,000 - 4.9
2007 Chrysler 300C SRT-8, $41,095 - 4.9
2008 Dodge Challenger R/T, $30,000 - 4.9
2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe, $35,000 - 4.9
2009 Jaguar XF, $67,000 - 4.9
2007 Jaguar XKR Coupe, $86,500 - 4.9
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8, $40,800 - 4.9
2007 Masarati GranSport MC Victory, $103,522 - 4.9
2007 Maybach 57 S, $375,000 - 4.9
2007 Mercedes R63 AMG, $88,175 - 4.9
2007 Mercedes SLK55 AMG, $63,275 - 4.9
2007 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet, $82,600 - 4.9
2008 Porsche Cayenne Turbo, $93,700 - 4.9
2007 Ford Mustang GT, $25,860 - 5.1
2008 Nissan Nismo 350Z, $37,000 - 5.4
2009 Hyundai Genesis*estimated*, $28,900 - 5.5
2008 Porsche Boxster, $47,500 - 5.6
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Originally Posted by Andy30thZ
Awesome reply!! But I still love banging gears and laying nice twin stripes with shift break in the middle of them, even if it means my ultimate time is slower than an automatic!! Unless your racing for cash....ita all about the drive for me!!
VERY WELL PUT!!!!!

It's a rare day here when someone actually looks beyond 0-60 & 1/4 mile times and actually points out what is really important in a car.... the overall experience & the fun of driving it.

Any car manufacturer can make a quick car. Simply put in more horsepower and more torque. But to have a car that's simply fun to drive takes more effort in more areas, and all areas working together to make magic.

I think the Camaro is going to be an absolute winner as a fun to drive vehicle. Not because of 0-60 and 1/4 mile times of the V8 SS, but the rave reviews of the feel, handling, and the good performance of the V6.

Looking forward to test driving the Camaro.
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Originally Posted by diarmadhi
Hrmm...

As I'm always looking for comparisons....

4.6-4.9 second range in the 0-60 (notables at bottom)....

2007 Ford Mustang GT, $25,860 - 5.1
Not for very much longer.
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