Why Irs?!?!?
12-08-2005, 10:05 PM
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Re: Why Irs?!?!?
Honestly if it's at least strong enough to stand up mild upgrades and track runs without tearing itself up or wheel hopping the car to death, I don't really care... It's the end product that matters, if the IRS is well designed it will yield alot of benefits IMO...
12-08-2005, 10:07 PM
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Re: Why Irs?!?!?
Originally Posted by 91Z-28
I don't recall Camaros of the past having difficulty with handling without IRS.
On the smooth surface of Spring Mountain Park (Bragg-Smith), NV...I'd agree with you...on IRP's rough damn road racing track, I'd have to strongly disagree.
12-08-2005, 10:24 PM
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Re: Why Irs?!?!?
Originally Posted by 25THRSS
The previous generation mustang. Ford has gone the solid axle route with the new stang, and I doubt the cobra will have IRS either. GM needs to step up to the plate with a stout sold axle rear for the 5th gen.
12-08-2005, 10:32 PM
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Re: Why Irs?!?!?
The IRS is something I've actually ACCEPTED with an OPEN MIND 
. Answer me this: what type of suspension do the C5's and C6's (and their respective Z06's) have?? Thank you, case closed
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Want to keep arguing and tell me they can't hook up at the track?
Check out corvetteforum.com sometime, and tell me that C5's and C6's run bad in the 1/4 mile, THEN I'll reconsider my view of the IRS. Oh, and please tell me how many cars outperform the 'Vettes on ROAD COURSES (that don't cost ~$250k +) and again, the case is closed on IRS.
Welcome to the future!
(edit: even "IF" GM put a solid axle in, you know they'd still use 'ol faithful, so there would just be complaints about a ~3-decade-old diff in a brand new car, and it would pi$$ off more people than it would please. Again, case closed.)
. Answer me this: what type of suspension do the C5's and C6's (and their respective Z06's) have?? Thank you, case closed.Want to keep arguing and tell me they can't hook up at the track?
Check out corvetteforum.com sometime, and tell me that C5's and C6's run bad in the 1/4 mile, THEN I'll reconsider my view of the IRS. Oh, and please tell me how many cars outperform the 'Vettes on ROAD COURSES (that don't cost ~$250k +) and again, the case is closed on IRS.Welcome to the future!
(edit: even "IF" GM put a solid axle in, you know they'd still use 'ol faithful
, so there would just be complaints about a ~3-decade-old diff in a brand new car, and it would pi$$ off more people than it would please. Again, case closed.)
Last edited by Capn Pete; 12-08-2005 at 10:35 PM.
12-08-2005, 10:38 PM
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Re: Why Irs?!?!?
Originally Posted by Capn Pete
The IRS is something I've actually ACCEPTED with an OPEN MIND . Answer me this: what type of suspension do the C5's and C6's (and their respective Z06's) have?? Thank you, case closed.
Want to keep arguing and tell me they can't hook up at the track? Check out corvetteforum.com sometime, and tell me that C5's and C6's run bad in the 1/4 mile, THEN I'll reconsider my view of the IRS. Oh, and please tell me how many cars outperform the 'Vettes on ROAD COURSES (that don't cost ~$250k +) and again, the case is closed on IRS.
Welcome to the future!
(edit: even "IF" GM put a solid axle in, you know they'd still use 'ol faithful, so there would just be complaints about a ~3-decade-old diff in a brand new car, and it would pi$$ off more people than it would please. Again, case closed.)
. Answer me this: what type of suspension do the C5's and C6's (and their respective Z06's) have?? Thank you, case closed.Want to keep arguing and tell me they can't hook up at the track?
Check out corvetteforum.com sometime, and tell me that C5's and C6's run bad in the 1/4 mile, THEN I'll reconsider my view of the IRS. Oh, and please tell me how many cars outperform the 'Vettes on ROAD COURSES (that don't cost ~$250k +) and again, the case is closed on IRS.Welcome to the future!
(edit: even "IF" GM put a solid axle in, you know they'd still use 'ol faithful
, so there would just be complaints about a ~3-decade-old diff in a brand new car, and it would pi$$ off more people than it would please. Again, case closed.)Amen, brother!
12-08-2005, 10:51 PM
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Re: Why Irs?!?!?
Originally Posted by Doug Harden
On the smooth surface of Spring Mountain Park (Bragg-Smith), NV...I'd agree with you...on IRP's rough damn road racing track, I'd have to strongly disagree.
That said, IRS makes a lot of sense from GM's perspective. Personally, I have no use for it and wouldn't want it (throw the "stone age" comments are at me or my live axle all you want - it makes no difference to me).
FYI...Mustang will likely have IRS by the time Camaro comes out.
12-08-2005, 11:04 PM
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Re: Why Irs?!?!?
Originally Posted by unvc92camarors
Who'd have thought we'd ever hear "GM needs to step up to the plate with a solid axle."
i dont think IRS will be a problem either AS LONG AS THERE ARE NO WHEEL HOP ISSUES. camaros have and always will burn rubber. When a 5th gen kicks its tail out, the tires had better be in contact with the ground and smoking - not hoppin up and down like a monster truck taking a whoop-dee-do section
12-08-2005, 11:05 PM
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Re: Why Irs?!?!?
Originally Posted by Ed 2001 SS
I disagree. The VAST majority of the cars will be used on the streets. I suspect the aftermarket will fill a need for a solid axle if the market demands it. The driving refinement that an IRS will provide will do worlds of good for this car.
12-09-2005, 12:04 AM
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Re: Why Irs?!?!?
I'm sure the aftermarket will step up with something.
On another note of the rear, and front suspension, can anyone make out the under pinnings will look like? I couldn't really make it out, as far as upper/lowers, SA/LA.
On another note of the rear, and front suspension, can anyone make out the under pinnings will look like? I couldn't really make it out, as far as upper/lowers, SA/LA.
12-09-2005, 12:13 AM
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Re: Why Irs?!?!?
Originally Posted by mastrdrver
I'm sure the aftermarket will step up with something.
On another note of the rear, and front suspension, can anyone make out the under pinnings will look like? I couldn't really make it out, as far as upper/lowers, SA/LA.
On another note of the rear, and front suspension, can anyone make out the under pinnings will look like? I couldn't really make it out, as far as upper/lowers, SA/LA.