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Is there a light at the end of the Z28 tunnel?

Old 02-18-2009, 08:41 PM
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Maybe in the 6th gen Camaro will have a Z28?
I hope!
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:05 PM
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Well, at least those of us that were holding out for a Z can now go ahead and get a SS.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:47 PM
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:01 AM
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why not just build your own interpretation of what the z28 would be? at least you can do it on your own now instead of complaining that its not what you wanted it to be when/ if it comes out. we all know not everyone has the same taste, so at least you can do it your own way now.
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I'm sure the aftermarket and GMPP will offer everything you need to create your own. Including the front facia and hood.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:05 AM
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you think theyll offer a new front end and hood through gmpp? like what is on bumblebee? assuming thats the z28 version.
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by John_H
Check out this article.

GM disbands unit that creates high-performance vehicles

I don't think we'll ever see a Z28 in the current Camaro. By the time GM is financially strong enough, I don't think a low mileage car like a LSA Camaro will be possible.
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Looks like all hope for a Z28 is gone
Who's to say most of the work isn't already done and all they need is someone at the top to say "Build it!" and rush it into production?

Only time will tell.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
Who's to say most of the work isn't already done and all they need is someone at the top to say "Build it!" and rush it into production?

Only time will tell.
because the govt. has control of gm now with this bail out. theres no way its possible. they now tell them what to build. they havent told them what not to build yet because i think gm knows what not to build right now.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen
because the govt. has control of gm now with this bail out. theres no way its possible. they now tell them what to build.
Can you show evidence of the government telling GM what to build?
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:03 AM
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no i cant but ill gaurantee that gm is very leary about building anything hi performance right now. whos to say if they would decide to build a z28 and that the govt. wont pull their money their lending because its not very fuel efficient or safe for the environment. obviously we know the govt. wants them to use the money in the right areas, hybrids and electric cars.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen
you think theyll offer a new front end and hood through gmpp? like what is on bumblebee? assuming thats the z28 version.
If not GMPP, then someone will. I guarantee it. And Yes, I think that was supposed to be the Z28. I posted that when I first saw the new Bumblebee last year.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen
no i cant but ill gaurantee that gm is very leary about building anything hi performance right now. whos to say if they would decide to build a z28 and that the govt. wont pull their money their lending because its not very fuel efficient or safe for the environment. obviously we know the govt. wants them to use the money in the right areas, hybrids and electric cars.
If that were the case, they'd kill Corvette, Camaro and G8 today. But we all know if that were to happen, then GM would basically be dead.

The disbanding of the GM performance division has nothing to do with Camaro. It has to do with performance versions of typically non-performance vehicles, i.e. Cobalt SS, HHR SS, Impala SS, CTS-v, etc. GM is merely focusing away from those low volume products towards making their high volume products more efficient. (Both in terms of fuel economy and lowering production costs.) Which as you said, goes a long way towards showing the government that they're on the right track.
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:09 PM
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There's no reason to not sell the Z28. The car is done, alot of money probably went into making the car, and they'll probably turn a profit on them. The Volt, which no one will really wanna buy unless gas goes crazy again, is what they'll lose money on. Gas is cheap right now and people want exciting cars, this is the perfect time to release the Z28. The V6 and SS are pretty good on gas, we need one car that's all about pure fun and performance in the lineup.
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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen
arent the rear fenders all part of the stamping of the body? so basically if you wanted to lighten up the rear fenders you would have to cut them out and weld in new ones,

That would involve starting at ground zero with the feds for crash testing certification...it aint gonna happen at that kind of expense for re-engineering everything to make the feds happy.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
My understanding of the ZR1 assembly is that its far more that swapping motors in the base Corvette. Furthermore, while the Z06 is probably closer, there are still some basic differences between the two that would make the math your proposal far from "close".

GM knows the weight differences between the LS3 and LSA (which btw is what this theoretical Z/28 would get, not the LS9), we just simply haven't dug it out of them yet.

FWIW, I believe someone will have a 50-state legal bolt-on supercharger kit for the LS3 long before we ever see a Z/28 make production. Perhaps that is a route many will take.
The Z06 and ZR1 use the same aluminum frame with magnesium cradles I believe. The Z06 frame is nearly 200 lbs lighter than the standard vette frame. I don't know if the ZR1 has additional carbon fiber supports to make the frame lighter than the Z06.
Regardless...the light at the end of our tunnel for a Z28 has gone out for a few years. We're gonna have to throw some $$ at our Camaros for intake, exhaust and cams (and probably a 3.73 rear end). Oh well...
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