kick Z tail out

It's been discussed that apparently the Z28 will take over the reigns from the SS as the head honcho of the lineup.

97WS6SCharged

They would need to lower the cost of the LS7 engine in order to put it into the Camaro. Don't bet on getting dry sump oiling, titanium rods, forged crank and pistons or a 7000 rpm redline. I wouldn't put it past GM to sneak a few of the them into some COPO cars and call them ZL1 editions though.

jg95z28

The LS7 will be available as a crate motor in early 2006.

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...7--P930C2.aspx

If they're building enough to be crate motors, why couldn't they put one in the Camaro?

And if they don't, for $15-20K, you could do it yourself.

kick Z tail out

Sunset Chevrolet in Banning has 4 of them right now. I was shocked as hell to hear they had so many.

DrewSG

I don't think they have 4 crate motors. They are only 4 available nationwide through GMPD

TechCam97

Then again, for most of the Camaro's history the Z28 has been the top model. In the 60's and early 70's it was over the SS, the idea that the SS is somewhat over the Z28 was a pretty new idea. Doesn't matter though, to me the Z28 has and always will be the top Camaro!

toegead93

I wouldn't count on the LS7. As someone mentioned earlier, they are looking to replace the LS-7 with a superchraged 6.2 or 6.4, can't remember. So in 3-4 years teh LS-7 will most likely be old news. But I'll still keep my fingers crossed for an LS-7 camaro.

kick Z tail out

Yeah I know, I just meant it was taking over from where it was in the 4th gen era.

johnsocal

In reality it will be more than you think.

The base Solstice as an example sells for $19,995. We all know that nothing more then a sales gimmick because except for the few who well special order a strippy, the real base price is around $22,995 (with popular options).

Going by the last 3 years of mild-inflation as an example, a car that sells for $20,000 (base v6 Stang) in 2005 will sell for closer to $21,500-$22,000 in 2008/09 and a $27,000 (V8 Stang) car will go for around $29,000-$30,000.

Now given that the Camaro will most likely be more exensive from the get-go ( Camaros are most always more expensive then Stangs) I would bet that when the 2009 MY Camaro comes out in late 2008 its base v6 price will be $23,995 and the base v8 will come in @ $30,995. The 2009 base v6 and v8 Camaro will be similar to that of the current Pontiac Solstice in which the 'real-world' prices will be at least a few thousand more ($25,995 V6 and $32,995 V8) and you be stuck paying high dealer mark-ups on top of that until 2010 as well. Fully loaded versions would most likely be $27,995 and $34,995 accordingly.

johnsocal

I wanted to put the current 2005 Mustangs prices in perspective. Using the trusty 'inflation calculator'the 2005 $20,000 base V6 Stang equals in price to $16,000 in 1995 and the 2005 $27,000 V8 Stang equals in price to $21,000 in 1995.

Even though the 2009 Camaro is going to seem significantly more expensive then what some of us paid for our 1994/95 Camaros (I paid $19,000 for my Z28 in 94) its still going to be a great car at a fair price. Even when adjusted for inflation it might end up being a little more expensive but Im sure the 2009 Camaro will be better in almost every aspect then the 4th gen.

notgetleft

Just because this debate is sooooo much fun....

In a year where both have been available, Z28 has NEVER had more HP than SS.

Now comes the part where someone says the 302 was underrated and really made 450hp and the high compression lumpy cam 396 was a dog...

Then comes the part where someone points out the Z28 had teh better suspension and brakes therefore making it the top performance model, HP be damned.

roflmao

Mersereau427

Horsepower and handling aside (yeah, right) the Z28 package always cost more than the SS package in the early years. That's why the Z28 used to be considered the top Camaro.

If it costs more, it must be better, right?

Diognes56

If I can get into a SS or Z28 or whatever the base V8 car will be called (hey I am still in school ) in the $22,000 to $26,000 range with the few options that I want I will be happy. I started saving what I can earlier this year (which admittedly isn't much ), so hopefully I will be able to get one in a couple of years (when I am done with school ).

Red Planet, if you see this: I would like to make one request (suggestion?), if it does make production (which I am sure it will) can you try to convince whoever needs convincing to make a telescoping steering column an option (atleast). I recently tried to convince my fiance that a '97 Z28 would be a good upgrade from my current car, but when she went to sit in it (she is 5' tall) she either could not touch the pedals or was sitting too close to the steering wheel so I was not able to get it . If it had a telescoping steering column I would have it now. Anyway, just something you guys over there might check into .

David

Z284ever

Which SS? I used to have a Camaro SS350. Turbo 350 trans. No gauges, just idiot lights. 14" wheels with hubcaps. White vinyl top.

Actually, I wish that I still had it! But man-oh-man, what I would have done to have the same year Z/28.

Mersereau427

At five feet tall, wouldn't that be the case in almost every car? How many cars have telescoping steering columns these days? Tilt yes, but telesoping? I thought that went out in the eighties.