Peyton

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...camaro_ss.html

In a field that includes the Mazda Miata, Mustang Shelby GT500 and the Porsche Cayenne, they judged Camaro SS last as a driver's car. Their nit-picks should make interesting discussion points, here.

Z28Wilson

To be fair, it was some pretty stiff competition with many cars costing much, much more.

Also to be fair, MT seems to be having the same complaints a few of us had a long time ago without even driving it.

69Camaro327

I'm not surprised in the least that the Camaro came in last with that list. They're talking about the best drivers car, and all of those vehicles have received many accolades in that respect.

Doug Harden

All the more reason to bring back the Z/28 as a lightened, handling package....with a few simple bolt-on hp goodies...but NO heavy damned supercharger!

skorpion317

I'm not really surprised, considering the competition.

The recurring theme we've seen with every review is that the car understeers heavily. GM should really take care of this.

97z28/m6

needs 275 fronts. maybe some bigger bars?

Doug Harden

Wonder if the caster/camber/toe can be changed enough to be more performance oriented and not setup to keep the general retards out there out of trouble?

Z284ever

Sounds like a familiar story by reviewers..

Too big.

Too heavy.

Weird claustrophobic interior.

Heavy understeer.


I realize that this group has some sweet cars, but there was a time when Camaros used to enter comparos like these and eviscerate all comers. Maybe next gen....

CLEAN

Agreed w/ the first part, at the second.
I'm w/ you, but we all know the story w/ this car...it was THIS car, or NO car.

Fbodfather

Patience, my friend -- patience.

Things would be different if there hadn't been a mortgage meltdown and a resultant financial meltdown.........


...........But --


I said it once before and I'll say it again: Have Faith.

JakeRobb

At what point in history could you make a list of nine of the world's best sports cars, sport coupes, and sport sedans, with prices ranging up to 5x that of their contemporary Camaro (with just one of them even close to Camaro's price), and have Camaro top the list?

I'm really asking.

Z284ever

http://www.thirdgen.org/besthandling...driver-may1984


http://www.thirdgen.org/besthandling...driver-oct1984

Here's a couple very quickly. Although the 944 did edge out the Z/28 on the second one, they were close enough to garner respect.

Fbodfather

OK --

So the world turns upside down in terms of the economy and the automobile industry: has anyone said "...hmmmm....perhaps there is something else in the works and the SS is not the 'end-all'...and because of the past year we haven't seen everything just yet???...."





Let's look at the list, shall we?


Audi 118K
ZR1 106K
Jag 88K
Porsche 67K
CTS-V 62K
GT-500 48K
370Z 39K
BMW 38K
Camaro 31K
Miata 27K



.........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............


And we won't get into 'protectionism' or any of that -- or closed markets......or what's happened to the economy............



Let me say this: Go drive one for 24 hours and just watch peoples' reaction to the car.

Get behind the wheel and drive it for 10 to 12 hours at a stretch...........

I guess it depends on what your expectations are -- and how big you think the market is for 'your' expectations.

JakeRobb

Doing well in those competition, while respectable, isn't nearly as impressive given the other cars in the groups. Look at the entries in this new article! There are some serious cars in there. I have no problem admitting the Camaro does not measure up to the ZR1, the R8, or the Cayman S as a driver's car. I'd love to be able to say that it did, but given the pricetags and limited practicality of those cars, it's a tradeoff I'm okay with as a Camaro enthusiast.

Also, I think that even making the list of the top ten drivers cars counts as "garnering respect," don't you?

sbca96

I wonder how the GTO would fair in the same group? Like or dislike the styling
the GTO was a good driver out of the box, while the 4th Gen Camaro would've
taken it in the twisties, the GTO doesnt beat you up while doing it.

Reviews for the GTO (disregarding styling) were generally VERY good. Perhaps
Holden should have just fixed the platforms faults, rather than upgrade it to a
Zeta? Zeta seems to need some work.

Tom