Most Important Camaro, the V6
01-12-2006, 10:57 PM
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Re: Most Important Camaro, the V6
Originally Posted by Riderr55
Why?? Wasn't the Z/28 package the strongest back in the 60's >???
01-12-2006, 11:45 PM
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Re: Most Important Camaro, the V6
a little history for you guys:
the Z/28 only came about to homoligate it for SCCA Trans-Am competition. in 1967, there werte only 602 built. most of them were sold to the teams competing in that class. the street cars were not that different from the track cars. they all had Z/28 specific suspensions and they could be had with a dual carb cross-ram intake and headers in the trunk, 4.11 posi rear, 4 wheel disc brakes and Corvette Rally wheels (to clear the brakes), A/C delete, heater delete, and radio delete (i know i missed afew options, but it's late)
the SS was a boulevard bruiser. they were offered with the 350 and the 396. they could be had with all the options. A/C, AM radio, deluxe interior, vinyl top, convertible, Corvette Rally wheels, etc. basically, the SS could carry just about every option available for 1967.
both cars could be had with the RS option (although it is rare for the Z/28), and the Z/28 could not be had with tthe convertible option.
the DZ302 in the Z/28 was rated at 340hp (i think, remember it's late
) and the SSs top motor, the L78 396, was rated at 375hp. both of those ratings are on the conservative side to say the least.
those are the facts guys. draw your conclusions as you see fit.
the Z/28 only came about to homoligate it for SCCA Trans-Am competition. in 1967, there werte only 602 built. most of them were sold to the teams competing in that class. the street cars were not that different from the track cars. they all had Z/28 specific suspensions and they could be had with a dual carb cross-ram intake and headers in the trunk, 4.11 posi rear, 4 wheel disc brakes and Corvette Rally wheels (to clear the brakes), A/C delete, heater delete, and radio delete (i know i missed afew options, but it's late)
the SS was a boulevard bruiser. they were offered with the 350 and the 396. they could be had with all the options. A/C, AM radio, deluxe interior, vinyl top, convertible, Corvette Rally wheels, etc. basically, the SS could carry just about every option available for 1967.
both cars could be had with the RS option (although it is rare for the Z/28), and the Z/28 could not be had with tthe convertible option.
the DZ302 in the Z/28 was rated at 340hp (i think, remember it's late
) and the SSs top motor, the L78 396, was rated at 375hp. both of those ratings are on the conservative side to say the least. those are the facts guys. draw your conclusions as you see fit.
01-12-2006, 11:52 PM
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Re: Most Important Camaro, the V6
Actually, the DZ 302 was rated at 290/290. Actual output has been surmised to be somewhere in the 400's with the dual quad's. A little anecdote, my dad had a 69 SS with the l78 and a m22, he said he could take the z/28 in a straight race, but he did comment on how sweet they sounded rapping out.
Also, he said forget it on the twisties, the weight of the 396 made that car a pure drag car.
edit- I stand corrected.
Also, he said forget it on the twisties, the weight of the 396 made that car a pure drag car.
edit- I stand corrected.
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01-13-2006, 12:00 AM
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Re: Most Important Camaro, the V6
Originally Posted by 91Z28350
Actually, the DZ 302 was rated at 290/290. Actual output has been surmised to be somewhere in the 400's with the dual quad's. A little anecdote, my dad had a 69 SS with the l78 and a m22, he said he could take the z/28 in a straight race, but he did comment on how sweet they sounded rapping out.
Also, he said forget it on the twisties, the weight of the 396 made that car a pure drag car.
PS-the SS could also be had with the 327.
Also, he said forget it on the twisties, the weight of the 396 made that car a pure drag car.
PS-the SS could also be had with the 327.
you better check on that 327 option
might be in for a surprise.when i quoted the 340hp rating, i was thinking with all the factory options (dual quads, headers. performance exhaust, etc.) installed.
and that number is on the conservative side. one of the 67 teams (forget which one) put the output well north of that. that's where that magic 400hp figure comes from.
01-13-2006, 12:13 AM
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Re: Most Important Camaro, the V6
As we all know the 290/290 rating was more or less an inside joke. The Boss 302 and 'Cuda AAR and Challenger T/A had IDENTICAL ratings.
There are no official dynos, but it is generally aknowledged that no 1st gen Z/28 left the factory with less than 350 hp. And as 91Z28350 pointed out, with the optional crossram, cam and headers, well over 400 hp was possible.
1fastdog bought one new. We had an interesting discussion about period shifting techniques this week in Detroit.
There are no official dynos, but it is generally aknowledged that no 1st gen Z/28 left the factory with less than 350 hp. And as 91Z28350 pointed out, with the optional crossram, cam and headers, well over 400 hp was possible.
1fastdog bought one new. We had an interesting discussion about period shifting techniques this week in Detroit.
01-13-2006, 12:16 AM
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Re: Most Important Camaro, the V6
Originally Posted by 91Z28350
Where was he shifting that car at Charlie? didn't they have a pretty high redline?
