THE MILFORD EXPERIENCE! - Disciple Video Interviews and MORE! Killer footage!
07-30-2008, 10:02 AM
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Honestly I cant understand that comment. If you were to buy a G8, you dont think you could reach it? Obviously I try to get differing opions but this is one I still dont understand unless you were maybe super tall. Im 6'3" and I hated reaching across in my 98 Camaro to get to it
07-30-2008, 10:04 AM
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that wasnt a "real world" reaction. I've been on a couple "ride and drive's" (as they are called on the dealership side) where they are releasing new vehicles and want first initial impressions from people before the car goes on sale and there are ALWAYS somebody that brings up something that was amiss with the car or something they didn't quite like or weren't fond of. Could be something so minor as, "I thought the radio ***** should be.... or..... the shifter should have numberings on.... it doesn't feel like xxx amount of hp.... you can feel the bumps too much/not enough" or whatever. SOMETHING. Whats shown on this particular canada/chevy website is pure fluff. Nobody says anything more than what'd you see on an infomertial. People looked handcuffed. I think if they had someone in the 18-25 range (Im older than that, BTW), they would be less likely to fall in line and MAY say something they really think.
if you think any of us went in there to kiss GM's azz, you are greatly mistaken. they pounded us over and over to make sure we spoke our minds. Anyone who knows me knows self-expression was never one of my shortcomings.
do you think GM was going to show the clips of me asking Tom Peters why the nose slit is still on the SS if its non-functional? my reaction to no memory seats?
The footage they provided IS an infomercial. It's there to promote the car. That doesn't mean it was all tea and crumpets at the sessions.
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07-30-2008, 10:08 AM
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Alot of credit has to be given to the Camaro team for fighting for it and getting the funding to pull it off. They put their necks out on the line. If it didnt go well, it would have reflected poorly on them.
All that being said... I wouldnt be surprised if they expanded it to other programs. It seems to have given some good feedback to them.
07-30-2008, 10:09 AM
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Honestly I cant understand that comment. If you were to buy a G8, you dont think you could reach it? Obviously I try to get differing opions but this is one I still dont understand unless you were maybe super tall. Im 6'3" and I hated reaching across in my 98 Camaro to get to it
Besides, perhaps the reason its on the driver's side on the G8 is because the car was originally designed as right hand drive and it was cheaper to just leave it there.
07-30-2008, 10:18 AM
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I obviously haven't seen the inside of a G8 yet. However I do know that on my 4th gen, and on my kid's A4, if something slips between the drivers seat and the center console, I have to get out of the car to reach it. Placing it on the driver's side isn't very ergonomic.
Besides, perhaps the reason its on the driver's side on the G8 is because the car was originally designed as right hand drive and it was cheaper to just leave it there.
Besides, perhaps the reason its on the driver's side on the G8 is because the car was originally designed as right hand drive and it was cheaper to just leave it there.
Jason and Teri V6 interview is really good. As good as Elies sales pitch was, I would much perfer Jasons reaction driving the car explaining why he who owned an 2002 SS and a this web site might consider the V6 or how its better than the SS.
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07-30-2008, 10:19 AM
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if you think any of us went in there to kiss GM's azz, you are greatly mistaken. they pounded us over and over to make sure we spoke our minds. ...
The footage they provided IS an infomercial. It's there to promote the car. That doesn't mean it was all tea and crumpets at the sessions.
The footage they provided IS an infomercial. It's there to promote the car. That doesn't mean it was all tea and crumpets at the sessions.
07-30-2008, 10:24 AM
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I think I saw in a post Chris or Jason might actually choose to buy the V6. Correct me guys if Im wrong.
Jason and Teri V6 interview is really good. As good as Elies sales pitch was, I would much perfer Jasons reaction driving the car explaining why he who owned an 2002 SS and a this web site might consider the V6 or how its better than the SS.
Jason and Teri V6 interview is really good. As good as Elies sales pitch was, I would much perfer Jasons reaction driving the car explaining why he who owned an 2002 SS and a this web site might consider the V6 or how its better than the SS.
07-30-2008, 10:29 AM
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Maybe i missed it, but have the focus groups guys said what GM changed based on them? I have seen all the likes and dislikes, but was there anything that you didn't like that is different on production? I remember mention of something on the interior they said would change.
I am happy with the list of dislikes, only a few of them are even real issues. Most of them fall into the either easily dismissed, personal preference, or improve on future models year categories.
I am happy with the list of dislikes, only a few of them are even real issues. Most of them fall into the either easily dismissed, personal preference, or improve on future models year categories.
07-30-2008, 10:33 AM
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I will get a V8, but the V6 was so different from previous V6's I have driven that it was exceptionally surprising. It was also much more finished then the V8 IVER car we drove so it was easy to envision it being "real" and of course, easier on the eyes. At the time I was thinking heavily of the V6 for my wife (and I still am). She has a longer than average drive to work every day and she could have some fun, too.
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07-30-2008, 10:40 AM
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My impression wsa they had items/issues they were kicking around internally. They put those same issues up to us for discussion. That was all flimed, then viewed later by the team for further consideration.
Items like NAV, HUD, spare tire/no spare tire.
They did allow us to comment on things that "we'd like to see".... one of mine was bluetooth. The fact we didnt spend much time on that made me realize "its a done deal".... as you can see GM is pretty much making Bluetooth connectivity standard on most cars in 2009.
Items like NAV, HUD, spare tire/no spare tire.
They did allow us to comment on things that "we'd like to see".... one of mine was bluetooth. The fact we didnt spend much time on that made me realize "its a done deal".... as you can see GM is pretty much making Bluetooth connectivity standard on most cars in 2009.
07-30-2008, 11:24 AM
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With the Buick and possible Caddy Zeta cars coming to Oshawa, wouldnt a dual zone system as well as memory seats be parts bin? How much harder aka how much would it cost to just update it to the new higher end stuff coming from Buick/Caddy?
07-30-2008, 11:41 AM
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maybe they considered the weight/cost to feature, and it wasn't on goal of what a camaro should be. takes more away from their mid to higher level cars. gotta draw the line between sorts and luxury.also think of all were getting for so little already, don't want to make the car even more money IMO.