0-60=4.7
02-14-2009, 07:03 PM
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0-60=4.7
I found this interesting, the 0-60 times for the V8 Auto and Manual are the same at 4.7 seconds even tho the HP numbers are 400 vers 426.
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02-15-2009, 09:18 AM
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I would bet that after real world tests on properly broken-in cars, you will see lower times than those, probably around 4.3-4.4. The auto is supposed to be around the same times as the manual, even though it makes less HP/torque, due to the A6 and its excellent gearing!
02-15-2009, 11:32 PM
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I forget who said it, but at Indy they announced that they nailed a 4.6 in the auto car, a 4.8 in the stick car.
Its pretty quick.
current GT500 is 4.5
2010 GT500 and the current GT500KR is 4.3
CTS-V is in the 4.3ish range
Its pretty quick.
current GT500 is 4.5
2010 GT500 and the current GT500KR is 4.3
CTS-V is in the 4.3ish range
02-16-2009, 12:41 PM
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On the other hand, the LS3 will only be turning 5000RPM right after shifting into 2nd at about 54mph.
That is probably where the difference comes. If the LS3's T6060 would have used the same internal gears as the older T56, then the Camaro would have been able to make the run to 60 without having to shift into 2nd gear (like the Z06) which would have put up better 0-60 times.
02-16-2009, 02:35 PM
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I would bet that after real world tests on properly broken-in cars, you will see lower times than those, probably around 4.3-4.4. The auto is supposed to be around the same times as the manual, even though it makes less HP/torque, due to the A6 and its excellent gearing!
02-16-2009, 03:01 PM
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Everything I've read puts the C6 'Vettes 0-60 time at 4.3 seconds. The G8 GXP is 4.7s and is about 100#s heavier than the Camaro. And since I'm not sure if the gearing matches between the G8 & Camaro the 0-60 time should be slightingly quicker than the G8...probably 4.5s-4.6s.
If by "most likely" you mean real world scenarios most can expect to see on the street and not on a prepped track with a great driver, then yes 4.7s 0-60 for a 'Vette seems likely. But for tested times by the professional drivers at the car mags 4.7s for a vette is slow.
If by "most likely" you mean real world scenarios most can expect to see on the street and not on a prepped track with a great driver, then yes 4.7s 0-60 for a 'Vette seems likely. But for tested times by the professional drivers at the car mags 4.7s for a vette is slow.
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02-16-2009, 03:22 PM
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I wouldn't get too cought up with these numbers. We are talking about a a few tenths of a second to 60mph. And it's even with the manual trans.
Automatic cars in stock or near stock trim usually launch easier than manual trans cars. So the fact that they are even at 60mph with more powerful manual cars just means they launched better. Usually if the race goes a full 1/4 mile the benefits of the manual trans and the stated power advantage will come through.
The good news is a 4.7 0-60 time translates well into a high 12 sec 1/4 mile.
Automatic cars in stock or near stock trim usually launch easier than manual trans cars. So the fact that they are even at 60mph with more powerful manual cars just means they launched better. Usually if the race goes a full 1/4 mile the benefits of the manual trans and the stated power advantage will come through.
The good news is a 4.7 0-60 time translates well into a high 12 sec 1/4 mile.
02-16-2009, 05:23 PM
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The base C6 (LS3) is capable of 4.0-4.1. I am not saying that everyone who drives a SS will get those #'s, but I would say it will be a few tenths slower than a C6.
02-17-2009, 03:44 AM
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I would bet that after real world tests on properly broken-in cars, you will see lower times than those, probably around 4.3-4.4. The auto is supposed to be around the same times as the manual, even though it makes less HP/torque, due to the A6 and its excellent gearing!
All that said, 4.5 is going to be pretty much the quickest for a showroom stock Camaro that you can even remotely hope for. Times below that is pretty much out of the question.
Save slightly milder engine programing (and underrated power), the drivetrain on the mere 150 pound heavier Pontiac G8 GXP, right down to the rear end gearing, is identical to the Camaro SS.
The GXP does 0-60 in 4.7. So it makes sense that GM would rate a Camaro SS at 4.7, while it's actual times end up a couple tenths quicker.
For the record, the 300 pound lighter, 100 horsepower (about 25%) inferior Mustang GT is now a 4.9 0-60 sprinter according to Motor Trend... and they aren't known for getting the quickest times out of their rides.
Something to think about.
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02-17-2009, 07:08 AM
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You simply are not going to get from 4.7 to 4.3 seconds simply by breaking in an engine. Getting to 60 mph today requires only 1 or 2 shifts.
All that said, 4.5 is going to be pretty much the quickest for a showroom stock Camaro that you can even remotely hope for. Times below that is pretty much out of the question.
Save slightly milder engine programing (and underrated power), the drivetrain on the mere 150 pound heavier Pontiac G8 GXP, right down to the rear end gearing, is identical to the Camaro SS.
The GXP does 0-60 in 4.7. So it makes sense that GM would rate a Camaro SS at 4.7, while it's actual times end up a couple tenths quicker.
For the record, the 300 pound lighter, 100 horsepower (about 25%) inferior Mustang GT is now a 4.9 0-60 sprinter according to Motor Trend... and they aren't known for getting the quickest times out of their rides.
Something to think about.
All that said, 4.5 is going to be pretty much the quickest for a showroom stock Camaro that you can even remotely hope for. Times below that is pretty much out of the question.
Save slightly milder engine programing (and underrated power), the drivetrain on the mere 150 pound heavier Pontiac G8 GXP, right down to the rear end gearing, is identical to the Camaro SS.
The GXP does 0-60 in 4.7. So it makes sense that GM would rate a Camaro SS at 4.7, while it's actual times end up a couple tenths quicker.
For the record, the 300 pound lighter, 100 horsepower (about 25%) inferior Mustang GT is now a 4.9 0-60 sprinter according to Motor Trend... and they aren't known for getting the quickest times out of their rides.
Something to think about.
As for the Mustang it is indeed quick off the line when optioned with 3.73 gears (always remember to clarify if the Mustang you are talking about has the optional 3.73 gears) but will quickly run out of steam do to its aggressive gearing and relatively low horsepower. This is where the LS3 will start to really shine. Remember that objects in motion want to stay in motion, so once the Camaro has overcome its massive weight and got going, it is going to be bye bye Mustang. The Camaro is going to embarrass the new Mustang in street races from a roll. Without a doubt!