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Old 07-21-2008, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Why not?

39xx pounds. 6.2 liters. 3.27-3.45 rear gear.
Did I miss an announcement about the gear ratios? I was expecting something closer to the G8's 2.92 rear gear.
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Old 07-21-2008, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Did I miss an announcement about the gear ratios? I was expecting something closer to the G8's 2.92 rear gear.
The LS3 G8 gets 3.27's with the auto and 3.70's with the manual.
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Old 07-21-2008, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by yellow_99_gt
The LS3 G8 gets 3.27's with the auto and 3.70's with the manual.
As far as I can tell in 30 seconds of Googling, the LS3 G8's fuel economy numbers aren't out yet.

The G8 GT with the manual is rated 24/15 with 3.27 rear gears, and it's heavier than the Camaro.

It's mostly the 23mpg highway that I find hard to believe.
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Old 07-21-2008, 10:56 AM
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The G8 GT is auto only. It also makes 54 horsepower less than the Camaro (manual). Thirty-five less than the auto.
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric77TA
The G8 GT is auto only. It also makes 54 horsepower less than the Camaro (manual). Thirty-five less than the auto.
Yep, and GM V8 cars with manual transmissions tend to get better fuel economy than automatics, despite their higher final drive ratios.

We'll know the real ratings in a few hours. No sense debating it any further here.
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 305fan
nope---the numbers completely disappear--not just the MPH---new number appear--higher in km/h.

So for example--150MPH on the speedo---flick the switch to Km/h--and it would say 240
In the pic it is set to Km/h and it still only goes to 160
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Yep, and GM V8 cars with manual transmissions tend to get better fuel economy than automatics, despite their higher final drive ratios.

We'll know the real ratings in a few hours. No sense debating it any further here.
We'll see how things turn out with AFM in the mix.
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Originally Posted by ImportedRoomate
We'll see how things turn out with AFM in the mix.
I don't think the M6 will be getting AFM.
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Old 07-21-2008, 12:02 PM
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Yeah, I know. I was thinking more in terms of the auto with AFM versus the manual without. The auto might end up getting better mileage. The V6 Accord's auto with cylinder deactivation gets 28 hwy compared to 25 hwy with the manual without cylinder deactivation.
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Old 07-21-2008, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb


When you get in an accident because that position affords you approximately zero control over the car, enjoy your dislocated shoulder and shattered elbow.

hey yeah i forgot i dont have power steering. and im also completely incapable of moving my hand from one position.

lets all drive at 10 and 2.
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Originally Posted by notsonic
hey yeah i forgot i dont have power steering. and im also completely incapable of moving my hand from one position.

lets all drive at 10 and 2.
I don't know where the "10 and 2" thing originated. The best place for your hands is, and has always been, 9 and 3. This affords you better control over the car, keeps your arms out of the way of a deploying airbag, and is superior ergonomically compared to 10 and 2.

For the record, I don't insist that everyone drive with their hands at 9 and 3. I know that's unreasonable. If I'm not on a racetrack, I generally drive with my left hand around 9:00 (resting on the spoke) and my right hand on the center console.

I do, however, insist that having your left hand at 4:00 and your right hand not on the wheel at all is pretty much the worst possible option. Safety and control aside -- is that even comfortable?
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Old 07-21-2008, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
We'll know the real ratings in a few hours. No sense debating it any further here.
Unfortunately, it looks like all we're given today is an estimated (which I read as "unofficial") 23 highway for the automatic. No fuel economy numbers for the manual.

Time will tell...
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Old 07-21-2008, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nova
Just a quick thought from a long absent former V6 owner who finally has the money for one of these when they come out....

Assuming it is a V6 car, how about the fact the Torque guage goes up to 370

I don't expect a V6 to hit that mark but even if starts to approach that

Of course there's also the possiblity that the guage is just generic between the V6 and V8 versions...
That's 370 N/m (newton / meters) instead of lb/ft.
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Unfortunately, it looks like all we're given today is an estimated (which I read as "unofficial") 23 highway for the automatic. No fuel economy numbers for the manual.

Time will tell...
He said on the broadcast that they're still working on it. So I'm sure they're tweaking all of the programming on both V6 and V8 to get MPG as high as possible - but I seem to recall someone saying 23 for the automatic a page or two ago...oh, wait that was me

Still, guess the question will have to go unanswered until we get official EPA numbers. I don't know if the AFM and lower power will give the auto better fuel economy than the manual or not. The 'Vette with the 6 speed and without AFM gets 1 mpg better for the manual.
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I came in five minutes late and saw Ed giving an overview of the interior. The whole presentation that I saw was pretty sparse on details. The GM of the dealer I went to said this was pretty typical of the presentations.

He did tell me that cars ought to flow in about four to five weeks after the February 9, 2009 start-up. He said look for cars around March 20th.
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