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Is there a light at the end of the Z28 tunnel?

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Old 02-16-2009, 09:02 AM
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Thumbs up Is there a light at the end of the Z28 tunnel?

This is Motor Trend SOOOOOoo it must be true!!

http://www.motortrend.com/features/...urns/index.html

A new hood features a large, forward-facing scoop. Underneath is the 6.2-liter supercharged LSA V-8 that also powers the Cadillac CTS-V. As we have already confirmed, this is quite a powerplant, delivering 556 horsepower at 6100 rpm and 551 pound-feet of torque at 3800 rpm. The Z/28 will also share the CTS-Vs six speed manual and automatic transmissions

Alas there was this caveat: Only problem is the Z/28 is on hold. First, GM ran out of money to finish and launch the car. Now, some inside the company are wondering whether selling a super-fast, super-powerful two-door Chevy coupe that will likely get no better than 13-19 mpg is the right thing to do for a company that's had to beg for money from a bunch of politicians who seem to think it really ought to be building gas-sipping Prius clones
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:07 AM
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i dont car how many mpg's it would get. i wouldnt buy it to get great gas mileage. those things are expected when buying a hi-po car. i would love to get one.
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:40 AM
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I think that we can kiss off a Z/28 on this gen car.


It's bittersweet for me.

On the one hand, it would have been good to see GM focus some attention and funding on the Z/28 sub-brand again. On the other hand, would a 4100-4200 pound car really carry the spirit of the Z/28?
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:18 AM
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I would have settled with a var with the same power but lighter and with magnetic suspension and larger brakes
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:42 AM
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The sad thing is that due to GM's reliance on government money they feel compelled to be 'green-focused' and look at cars such as the ZR-1, CTS-V, Camaro or any V8 car with trepidation. This should NOT be the case. The fact that these V8 cars would constitute a smaller percentage of their entire line sales, but at the same time likely be their most popular vehicles, possibly boosting sales of minivans and compact cars makes them necessary.

At the same time Ford seems to not be concerned at all with releasing faster, more powerful, V8 powered Mustangs seemingly every 5 minuets! They know that Mustangs and F-150's are what get people to dealerships and the cooler the vehicle, the more car and truck sales they will stimulate.

GM needs to cut back to the bare minimum across their brands, and I feel eliminating several entire brands is actually necessary for their survival, which should leave them open to focus on 2-3 brands total. This would allow them a bit more freedom to get incredible cars such as the Z28 made. IF they build what's profitable, and not JUST what's appears to be the most 'green' cars to appease the government I think they will do well. Besides does anyone really believe that the government is the wisest choice to light the path of financial prosperity for corporate America? What's our national debt up to now?

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Old 02-16-2009, 10:46 AM
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I used to want a LSA Z, but after seeing how easy it is to get big power out of the LS3 I think it's a dumb idea. Why add 110lbs to the nose of the car and have to put up with all that heat soak if an LS3 can make more power with a cam and bolt ons? If they build one now I think they should leave the motor alone and concentrate on everything else.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:10 AM
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Z28 AKA Bumblebee

Anyone notice the resemblence of the concept Z28 in the motortrend article to the style of the Bumblebee Camaro? Notice the deep air vents on the facia and compare them to the front fascia of BB. Also the hood looks remarkably the same. If this rendering is a realistic depiction, it may appear that in looking at the Bumblebee, we have been seeing the possible future of the Z28 look. Maybe?
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Interesting observation...
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When the Transformers 2 Bumblebee came out they stated that it was based off of a current Camaro design that was still in development. I like it but have to agree that tweeking the current LS3 motor just makes more sense than a production Z28. Besides Saleen already said he would be producing his own variant of the SS, as well as all the other tuning houses. That's not counting the possibility of ordering say an LS7 crate motor and having Chevrolet install it for you!

By the way that LS7 motor shows up on GMPP web site for the bargain basement price of $14,870!! At 505 hp and 470 lb/ft it seems a bit steep for me.

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I would have settled with a var with the same power but lighter and with magnetic suspension and larger brakes
.....then just buy a corvette!
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Interesting observation...
As I read this article, I kept asking myself, "which came first...?" Unfortunately, you must read to the end of the post to get this:

"According to sources, GM product chief Bob Lutz has said that, while he would love to do the car, "We need to make the world right first." However, that could take cash-crunched GM a long, long time."

I am not holding my breath for this car.
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:04 PM
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i think that a car with the same power as the ss, but lighter, would be perfect for a z28. who said it had to have cts-v power or zr1 power to be a z28? why couldnt it just be the same power plant as the ss(vette) and be maybe 500lbs lighter,different wheels/tires, brakes, maybe a few appearance differences to separate it from the ss?? that would be a pretty sweet z28.
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:30 PM
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It's gonna be impossible to get 500lbs out of it and still meet noise, emissions, and crash standards. Plus you gotta keep the huge wheels and brakes and IRS so the thing can handle. Unless the removable body panels weigh 4x what they did on the 4th gen, I'd say they won't even get 150lbs off this car.
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Originally Posted by yellow_99_gt
I used to want a LSA Z, but after seeing how easy it is to get big power out of the LS3 I think it's a dumb idea. Why add 110lbs to the nose of the car and have to put up with all that heat soak if an LS3 can make more power with a cam and bolt ons? If they build one now I think they should leave the motor alone and concentrate on everything else.
I like where you going with that except leaving the motor alone. Keep the LS3 but add a stronger cam and add the bolt-ons to it. That with reduced weight a greater suspension could generate close to the same performace as an LS9 based Z and it would be more true to the original race inspired Z28. But in reality and as already stated, how much weight can really be saved?

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Just say no.....a big ol' heavy SC'd engine and over 4,100#'s is NOT a Z/28.....never was, never should be.......Riley & Scott got closer.....
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