Chocolate Apocalypse

[QUOTE=TrackMagicWS6 And for those of you who might say, “Well, the Challenger has 35 hp more,” I would just reply that we have a certified 1OO more on tap from the ZO6 engine, should the need arise.[/QUOTE]

I need it, I need it, I need it!

HOTCIVIC

If Lutz is reading this, I'd like to tell him I don't appreciate him making me cream in my pants at work.

5thGen

I think it will have IRS because it will be based off a platform to be used for midsized cars (and possibly mid to small SUVs), so it is more economical to put IRS on all of them, instead of a live axle on some, IRS on others.

I think you guys are setting yourselves up for a big let down. An LS7 Camaro for 35? The LS7 Vette comes in at 70k. The LS2 Vette comes in at 44k. Do you really think that GM will sell a Camaro that will stomp the Base vette for less money than the vette? I think it will be near or more than the base vette. You don't take the heart of a 70k car, and put it in a 35k car.

I am not saying they won't do it (put the LS7 in). They did it in the 60s and those are some of the most valuable cars ever made from GM, but even look at the option cost back then, big money. I don't think you should expect it to come in at 35k. Because honestly, you will be able to damn near get a LS7Camaro and LS2Corvette for what the Z06 costs, and that really wouldn't make too much sense if you think about it.

OutsiderIROC-Z

"Make no mistake: We would love to build this car. I would love to have one in my garage. But we cannot commit to it just yet. Circumstances dictate that we have other priorities that come first. For now, we’ll just enjoy what we have, and find out what everybody thinks about it, and we’ll make a final decision on it at our earliest opportunity."

How much longer will they wait? 4 years too long....

CCoop8830

Lutz come on quit f***ing with us. You built the concept but now you decide to tease us even more especially with the LS7 comment! Good job though.

Chrome383Z

Agreed, I expect a TOP OF THE LINE SS Camaro (or Z whatever) to be in the mid-low 30's (33ish) and that is with a LS2/T56.

A LS7 would be a low production like the GT500 and probably mid-low 40's. If they could do it for 39,995 I'd be very suprised... More like 45k.

jg95z28

Ok, where are all the clowns that were laughing at those of us that were suggesting a LS7 in the next gen Camaro?

turbo96z28

damn staright!

where's everyone that would flame me when i brought it up and said "no way, GM isn't even thinking about putting an LS7 in there!"

Ray86IROC

When I said 35k in another thread I was thinking more of a downgraded LS7, not really detuned but with less of the race stuff like the dry sump system, etc. Also I was not intending to say I think that price likely at all, only that that is the only way I'd shell out quite that much for the top dawg. I am expecting the standard V8 model (standard as we have come to know the 4thgen Z28) to have the 400+ hp LS2 or better setup for under $30k and if the $33k-$35k model doesn't offer significantly more power I'll be going less than "top dawg". That is of course assuming spending 33-35k won't be the only way to get the LS2 level performer...

CCoop8830

When you downgrade the LS7 you get an LS2. Not exactly but still it wouldn't be worth it. That tech. allows it to acheive that kind of HP.

jg95z28

The LS7 crate motor retails for only $10K more than the LS2 crate motor. So logic would dictate that if they can build an LS2 Camaro for under $35K, they could build an LS7 Camaro for under $45K. However, I seriously doubt the LS2 Camaro would be much more than a similarly equipped Mustang or Challenger.

jg95z28

They already offer the dry sump system as an option on the LS7 crate motor, so why wouldn't they offer it on an LS7 Camaro as well?

91_z28_4me

No you don't. The LS7 is a different block with different internals. The LS2 has smaller bore and stroke, hence it is a 6.0L and the LS7 is a 7.0L.

toegead93

Right on, and $45,000 puts it up there with the cobra (GT500) making an LS7 equiped Camaro equal competition. And if GM paid attention to the special edition 2002 Berger Camaro sales I'm sure they'd see that a limited edition high powered Camaro will sell. Also, a lot of the Z06 cost is in the materials for the chasis and body, this won't be a factor on a Camaro. The question is will GM keep the LS7 around for Camaro once it's replaced by the LS9?

Chuck!

$10k would be for the motor alone. I doubt that they'd stick an extra 100 hp in the car without beefing up the brakes, suspension, cooling, wheels, etc. In the grand scheme of things I would see a ultra-high performing Camaro reaching up in the high $40k area, but if you want to play with the big dogs then you'll have to pony (pun) up the money.

But even at that price, you'd be getting one hell of a car.

btw - everyone get on that blog and respond. Lutz said they made this concept to see how people are reacting and that'll influence if they build it (duh, I guess).