View Poll Results: All things being equal, which would you buy in 2011
4,000 lbs Camaro
108
65.45%
3,500 lbs Mustang
23
13.94%
I'd buy something else.
34
20.61%
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Here's a weight poll for you guys.
03-14-2008, 09:20 PM
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Yeah my bros GT weighed 3540 stock with 18's, but it already has an aluminum hood, roof and block, plus a solid axle. Not to mention the fenders are as thin as construction paper. I can't see a 2011 even weighing the same unless it's the size of a Solstice.
03-14-2008, 09:21 PM
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03-14-2008, 09:22 PM
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03-14-2008, 09:24 PM
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I think they're planning a more intensive use of high strength and ultra high strength steel.
03-14-2008, 09:24 PM
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And I just looked it up out of curiousity... the 2002 TA that I had was listed as having 3500 lb curb as well (edmunds.com). LS2 GTO's - - 3725 lb. Seems the range for a modern RWD 2+2 coupe is about 3500 - 3725.
03-14-2008, 09:27 PM
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Then of course it will come true, like Ford's other fairy tales! ( 
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Ugh. One of the reasons I crossed the 05 Stang off my list after sitting in one at a dealer - tiny rear leg- and headroom. Making it even smaller? 
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Also, the rumor is the next Mustang will be smaller.
03-14-2008, 09:32 PM
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It's rumored that the shrinkage would occur from a reduced rear overhang. I don't think they're planning on shrinking the interior.
03-14-2008, 10:05 PM
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03-14-2008, 11:00 PM
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I'm too lazy to look it up, but isn't the current commodore heavier then the last commodore.
The GTO was based off the last gen commodore and weighed ~3750. The GTO is also about the same size as the 5th gen. Seems to me that the 5th gen, based on a chassis similar to the new, heavier commodore will then also similarly weigh more.
At the least, i don't see any way the 5th gen will weigh less then the GTO, but since the new 4 door chassis is heavier, i'd bet so too will a couple based on it.
The GTO was based off the last gen commodore and weighed ~3750. The GTO is also about the same size as the 5th gen. Seems to me that the 5th gen, based on a chassis similar to the new, heavier commodore will then also similarly weigh more.
At the least, i don't see any way the 5th gen will weigh less then the GTO, but since the new 4 door chassis is heavier, i'd bet so too will a couple based on it.
03-14-2008, 11:22 PM
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Sometimes. Look no further than the 3 talking windbags in this year’s Presidential election and past Presidents to show that words are often just words, even if they are said over and over.
I'm more of the “believe it when I see it” kind of person. Oddly enough I'm in sales but personally I'd take results and actions over words and promises any day. I've put enough time in and near the automakers to know fancy press from reality.
Will CAFE change things? Sure. Could Ford drop 300 or even 500lbs for the next Mustang? Probably. Do I believe that they will?? Well let me ask this. If Ford did everything they say they would do, why is their stock trading at $5.29 at today’s close?
Should we believe all the rumors and reports on the next gen Mustang? Probably not.
Should we believe Ford when they say they'll drop 200-300 lbs on their future models? Probably yes. That is of course, if they want to sell cars when CAFE kicks in.
In fact, if this CAFE legislation would have passed 30 months ago, I'd bet the Camaro would have been based on something other than Zeta today.
Should we believe Ford when they say they'll drop 200-300 lbs on their future models? Probably yes. That is of course, if they want to sell cars when CAFE kicks in.
In fact, if this CAFE legislation would have passed 30 months ago, I'd bet the Camaro would have been based on something other than Zeta today.
Will CAFE change things? Sure. Could Ford drop 300 or even 500lbs for the next Mustang? Probably. Do I believe that they will?? Well let me ask this. If Ford did everything they say they would do, why is their stock trading at $5.29 at today’s close?
03-14-2008, 11:47 PM
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03-15-2008, 03:29 AM
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