CamaroScotty

http://detnews.com/article/20110323/...staged-hostage

msgZ28

Damn unions at it again. Will Allied make it out of this alive? How bad with this hurt GM's ability to ship cars?

5thgen69camaro

+1

I am a little confused as to who has possession of the vehicles.

- Is it Allied company, that cant ship them back because the truckers that would drive them back are on strike?

- Is it the Teamster Truckers themselves who took the trailers loaded with vehicles to their homes during the strike?

Either way, I hate Unions/Teamsters, whatever you want to call them. They are so anti productive by design its unreal.

JakeRobb

I hate generic Union-hate. UAW and Teamsters have a bad reputation, sure -- but when have you ever heard anything bad about, for example, the UFCW (food/commercial workers)? Or the AFT or UFT (teachers)?

SSPORT10

It is not the average union worker that is causing all the issues, it is the union bosses. BTW, the teachers unions are one of the worst in this country, especially when it comes to hurting the education of our children or SEIU and AFL-CIO, but that is a whole other discussion for another forum...anyway, hope the Camaro deliveries start moving again soon. That would suck if that hurts Camaro sales in anyway!

neversummer

IMHO unions are dinosaurs. They are a thing of the past and hopefully will become extinct. There are enough laws, regulations, transparency and competition to effect the results that unions originally were designed to do - protect the worker. It is unions that kept Detroit from having more technologically advanced (less human labor) automation than Mexico. Let the invisible hand and free market do its work.

95camaroinok

I can see refusing to work if they want to throw a fit for a raise, but holding the property they were in possession of at the time they requested a raise and continuing to hold it as ransom, should definately be monitarily punishable.

Thats no different than a cab driver taking your mother to the airport, with the rate clearly marked on the side of the cab, then setting the child lock on the back doors and refuse to let her out untill she pays the new price that was not already agreed on before the transaction began, and just coming out and saying, I want "$x amount" more than the mutually understood amount as advertised (already agreed upon).


Sorry, havn't had much sleep and that was the first scenario I came up with.

OutsiderIROC-Z

The title of this thread made me !

DAKMOR

wats that camaro holding hostage? thread title and thread do not match.

JakeRobb

STOCK1SC

Get the FBI involved, interstate commerce fraud.

DAKMOR

camaro's apple

the cammaro owns the apple.

camaro's hostage

the camaro has a hostage.

Camaro's held hostage!

the camaro has a held hostage of unknown type...

HuJass

First off, the union is not the one holding the cars hostage.
Allied Ltd. is.
Allied shipping wants the union members to take a concession. The union said no.
It was the ALLIED'S decision to not ship cars. Not the union's.
I'm sure Allied had other options other than holding the cars hostage.
Allied is clearly the problem here and they deserve to get sued.

Rev294

Tell me about it my parents own a non union company and the union wont let us work on MSU jobs the kicked us of campus like wtf and my mom is leading the fight against construction unions in michigan.