detroitboy

I'll believe you Clyde because like I said....things got foggy in 1970....but it smelled nice with the incense.

Chrisz24

I didnt know you could get that much from the factory? What kind of times would they put out?

A friend of mine is semi storing a 67 with a 400 from a GTO and it seems fairly fast!

King Moose SS

I like the 1967 despite being "worse" as motor trend puts it, than the new V6 Camaro.

HP and all that stuff are just numbers. just look at it, the 1967 back in the day, was heart stopping good looking. GM didn't even stop there, every year they improved on it till the jaw dropping 69 one.

Man to be in that era of automotive history must of been like heaven.

Bearcat Steve

To my knowledge, Chevy never offered a 427 in a Camaro except for the ZL1 cars and the COPO cars.

Also, the original "Z" was a high HP, low torque motor. The bore/stroke was very under square. It could rev like crazy but had no torque down low. It was in NO WAY a drag racer. It was intended solely for road racing where you could keep the revs high.

Chrisz24

I think that is a generational thing, I felt the same way when the 97 Camaro came out, that it couldnt get any better, then the 98's rolled out and stole my heart Cars like the Corvette, and GTO also did that for me.

I think it's part of being young and liking cars and where they fit into your life. Hopefully that can continue for future generations. I'm 25 now, but when I (supervise) my 17 yo brother Driving my GTO, I see it in him too, the excitement.

IZ28

Add all of the factory performance options to the order list, the right gears, and someone that knows how to drive one.....your opinion would be very different. The 1st Gen Z28 holds more drag racing records than big block SS Camaros IIRC. (and of course SCCA road racing ones also)

b4z

I think it would be fair to say that a 5th gen V6 will take a 1st gen 350/300 0-60 and in the quarter, although the trap speeds might be close.
keep in mind that if you compare one to a 1st gen Z/28 with a M22, I think they had a 2.20 1st gear. The 5th gen will have a 4.XX gear in the auto, so the torque multiplication is about 70-80% more even with the taller rear gear and tires the 5th gen has.

wildpaws

That would be correct, the 427 was offered in COPO and ZL1 but was not a factory SS option. I would disagree that the 302 Z/28 was "in NO WAY a drag racer" having owned and driven a '69 Z/28 in 1969. While it's design intent was as a road racer, it certainly had the ability to compete in the 1/4 mile, just ask any of the many drivers from that era that had their behinds handed to them by a Z/28.
Clyde

1fastdog

It was, and trust me, one day someone will say the same to you about today.

Bearcat Steve

The "intent" of the Z28 was to be a road racer. With the right options, even a Cobalt can perform well in the 1/4.

FiefSS

Remember when car's ran on gasoline???

wildpaws

Ah yes, but that was not what you said or implied! When you said "It was in NO WAY a drag racer" along with your engine explanations, you excluded it from ever having any 1/4 mile performance. Others have mentioned the NHRA records held by the Z/28 along with the SCCA Trans Am records, I can certainly attest to what was happening in the real world back then (rather than "bench racing") as I bought a '69 Z/28 new in 1969, being 20 years old at that point you can bet I was willing to wring all of the performance out of it that I could. Friday and Saturday nights at the local hangouts certainly ended up proving/disproving how good different cars/models/configurations ran in the real world. And being older and wiser now, I do not condone the street racing that took place back then when there was far less traffic to deal with.
Clyde